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If you don't know the cause you don't know the cause. It doesn't make something else a possibility. Not in science anyway. In your makebelive fantasies, it may well allow for a Unicorn or a Pixie or Shrek or God to be a possible Creator. But not in science.

Ah yes of course, butterfies FC. But that's a whole other kettle of fish:D

I think that was Richard Dawkins wasn't it? Anyway, it's the same thing as saying there's a 99.98% chance of no Leprechauns. So it leaves the door open for Leprechauns. It's the same door you leave open for your brain to fall out of.

You are wasting your time trying to claim whether science is discussing the supernatural - period. It isn't. Science does not consider the supernatural because the supernatural isn't science or in any way scientific. You also have already wasted your time and managed to show how much of a...

Evangelical scientists is a contradiction in terms. There are no facts in creationism. The only thing creationism has to do with science is that creationism has nothing to do with science. The universe appears fine tuned like the Earth appears flat. Logically, factually, sensibly, reasonably...

Science has always ruled out a Creator (God) because a Creator (God) isn't science, you tosser.

The religious fine tuning claim merely illustrates how imaginary divine creators are obviously unable to create a universe whose conditions do not allow for it.

o_O wtf? Quite frankly by now it must be obvious to most people except yourself, that you don't know what you are doing. which would be non scientific, unsupported by any science, with no math and no physics. In fact it's no kind of a scientific proposition at all. which nevertheless is...

All those invalid conclusions you have lodged in your closed mind is ignorance, not science. When in science you have a number which needs explanation, a number only occurring in the first place by doing science from the scientific method, the supernatural is no explanation at all and is not...

If you want to discriminate against others because of your religious beliefs, you have to expect others to discriminate against you for your religious beliefs. The purpose of the law is to break that kind of vicious circles.

The Universe both giveth and taketh away:)

As usual Wallet, you've missed the point. The universe assembles inanimate objects all the time. Stars and galaxies as well as sandwiches.

Dude, you're merely the universe's method for bringing inanimate objects together to make a sandwich.

Not sure Jem has the wherewithall to understand something so essentially commonsensical.

:D at least making posts to answer your own bullshit is one thing you can manage:rolleyes:

There's no good reason to assume only one big bang happened allowing one universe to form. Infinite false start big bangs varying in parameters, continuously occurring, failing to survive, until one did expand into this universe, trumps any ideas about a need for so called fine tuning.

Wonderful sentiments db. Amazingly beautiful inspirational music. The lyrics add nothing but then again they don't spoil the fantastic music . Latin hides a multitude of sins.:) Charles Dickens filled the words space superbly. Merry Christmas.

And many of those scientists in the past centuries were persecuted by the church when their discoveries didn't agree with religious dogma. Nevertheless, when they were doing science they were doing science. When they were doing god they were'nt doing science. They were doing superstition.

That computer of yours is hypothetical bullshit is it, which scientific engineers will have designed hypothetically, connecting it hypothetically to hypothetical servers and hypothetical science based electronic systems to send your dumb bullshit comment at light speed across the world:rolleyes:

...in the way theists say " That's god".