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Exodus 12:29 At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. You may want to communicate that to your...

Which would have no mandate from a made up divinity, to baselessly sanctify and excuse the action without which begs for more genuine rationale.

Ok I can see you're confused. To expand what you said right there, are you proposing the part about Bible's murder and rape isn't true, so the part about Bible God creating the world is just pixie dust also? But surely you see the point is really about the question of the morality of those...

So incredibly designed for life, it is manifested as a speck of bio-chemical existence hanging by its fingernails to a fleck of dust in an infinite void completely inhospitable to it. Were it design, then it would be a universe incredibly designed not for life. You keep trolling out the same...

Yes it is. Understanding how the universe doesn't need a 'Creator' is not like believing in pixies. But never mind the substantive point. When you have no real excuse for the genocide, murder, rape and the killing of children, either carried out or sanctioned by Bible God, just focus on the...

Particularly God's.

It's not to do with not believing. The passages of hatred and violence condoned by the Bible is something I would not accept from anywhere period. And it's troubling to see grown people, who should know better, being apologists for it. As far as disbelieve goes, not believing in God is just...

That real God of the Old Testament commits genocide, requires nations be annihilated, countless people murdered, gives instruction to rape and requires human life be sacrificed , as God finds it pleasing. I would have thought separation from that kind of psychotic megalomania manifested in...

You mean you rely only on religion to stop yourself acting that way?:eek: That is so old! Morality is independent from religion. Religion has always been dependent on outside human morality. It must be. Otherwise no one would be able to tell if in fact religions or religious views, were moral...

You make my point. That's exactly the problem...Bible and Koran often are treated like treasure troves of knowledge . Wrong on small issues? You must be joking. Bible and Koran, both historically hostile to any free inquiry of them. Coercive and glorifying the indiscriminate killing of whole...

But does it take a monumental effort for you to be convinced that not anything and everything, (you know, like a potato) can be responsible? Please Cap, reassure me you are being serious and don't say yes!

Thankfully the human spirit exists outside of religious tales and beliefs and exists despite those Bible stories, which encourage people to war in the name of an imagined God. If the Bible were read and treated like a Grimm's tale, there would probably be fewer problems all round, possibly...

...kinda sums up bible religion to a tee. Jeremiah 50:21-22

Well said, though I'm sure not so open minded your brains might fall out. But you draw the line somewhere right? I do too, at one less Higher Power than you.

Bible religion. Romans 1:28. God teaches "his children" how to name call.:rolleyes:

..and I'm saying, what we believe to be possible is not necessarily so. I think you might be forgetting, imagination can equally be wrong as well right about what is and isn't possible. To the imaginative, imagining anything is possible, also requires imagining it isn't possible that anything...

Come on. Things are not possible or impossible just because you imagine they are either.

And yet you dismissed my imagination, (albeit self-evidently a little more than mere imagination), for Mother Goose being in an equivalency with God. You called it childish.(and God isn't?!:confused:) If you were asked to imagine what might enable you to ascend into the sky like a bird, would...

There's a discussion going on, that's all. "They" are not trying to convert anyone.:rolleyes:

See, that's the puzzling thing. The magnificence of existence is primarily evidence of itself, not of God. Arbitrarily adding a thing like God to it, simply by imagining it, isn't evidence for God. It's evidence of imagination. Just as every other imaginary thing is.