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Come on peil you're better than that aren't you. Could just as well say "I think we all know by now" setting fire to a black church and painting "vote Trump" is a double bluff by Trump supporters in an attempt to make Clinton supporters look bad. Oldest trick in the book. Oh a Triple bluff...

Forgiveness doesn't need Christianity but Christianity does need forgiveness.

And how infinitely more principled they would be in giving - not because a Goblin in a story book is threatening them - but because it's a good and proper thing to do in its own right.

It's not about semantics and I think it wrong to pass the issue off that way. Non-equivalent comparisons to gifts of houses or water in the desert, do not reflect the obvious shortcomings in the veracity of bible promises. When you get a house as a gift you get a house. Being offered so...

Thing is, there are no moral actions you can perform that are not already in the province of the non-religious. Though they are often claimed to be - happiness, fulfillment and self worth - are not the sole property of the religious. But you're right. This wasn't about winning, it was...

You describe a false gift that isn't really a gift at all, offered by someone who isn't a someone, to do with something that's no more than an ethereal promise for after you're dead. It is my argument that seriously believing in those sort of delirious ideas, is the sort of thing that chips...

The way this salvation idea is described, really does not reasonably or rationally justify it to be anything like a gift. Emanating from no actual thing other than a devious machination within an ancient tale, you have a completely indistinct, implausible and highly questionable offer being...

aww yeah.... member? member Tricorder...again...

That's very unfair and unreasonable. I've never stated what if any, my political allegiances are. You can cast a blank vote to say you don't support the corrupt political system you name , or to show your disagreement with both parties. So if voting in a democratic system were considered a...

Thanks for your courteous inquiry and indeed, let's put the religiously motivated linguistic theatrics of replacing the word forfeit with the word gift - aside. Apart from the cost of losing one's personal integrity, it is required to give up human reasoning to believe in God ideas, that have...

It's interesting to see religion's perpetual default position, turning basic commonsense on its head to refuse all rationality. God's gift -no gift - is a gift when payment has been made to receive or accept it.

Belief doesn't come into it. Give me $1 million dollars and I don't have to believe you have $1 million dollars - I have the $1 million dollars! Had I had to accept it , it is not a true gift, however much you might suggest otherwise. I'm sure you see how that is. If I had to believe in you...

As I say then, not a true gift at all. More like an offer couched in the terms of a threat. Take this or you don't get that.

Having to be accepting of a gift, is no free or true gift. Being offered a gift for something done in return, is no free or true gift. Being required to believe something in order to receive a gift, is no free or true gift. You get my drift.

True gifts come with no strings attached.

Life Hack# 42: Beware those bearing free gifts.

Funny then, why Laura Ingraham just can't ignore liberalism. And if she doesn't believe what atheists might say is true... why isn't she just ignoring it!?:rolleyes:

...to be religiously biased. Duke University Durham, North Carolina. Founded by Methodists and Quakers Dr. Patty Van Cappellen Subjects: Social psychology of religion/spirituality, health, positive emotions, biblical studies "Oxytocin is a hormone that also acts as a neurotransmitter in...

So to be clear, sex makes you want to worship something male.