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Calm down, I only asked you a question. See, thing is, that has already happened. Started in the 19th century and has survived the scientific method to date, due mainly to the laws of physics, and because everything else to the contrary hasn't. And this is why I asked you to explain...

So you are saying man made CO2 cannot have a warming effect because it lags temperature. If it didn't lag it can have an effect , if it does lag it can't. That's what you are saying, right?

Hitler's declared belief and faith as he recorded it and professed it was no lip service. It was full hearted and like Jesus, he brought a sword. Ignore and excuse all you want but it will not change the fact. Belief and faith everyone knows condones what's bad as well as pronouncing what's good...

The Jesus concept promises to bring a sword not peace. Requires people to hate themselves, their families and their brethren. Makes threats of damnation while at the time saying "I love you". Encourages others to consider themselves righteous for no other reason than saying they believe in...

A bit of pot & kettle :finger: Bottom line is piezoe, science is not on the side of your contrarian argument . Unless and until the likes of Salby, Shaviv, Miskolczi can come up with propositions that don't disregard the laws of physics, or contradict observed data and information, they will...

Technically, in that regard as far as atmospheric concentration goes, let the force of the Keeling Curve be with you. But whether it is a technical game of chicken, or one played out while the blindingly obvious pollution of the atmosphere with quantities of CO2 decade after decade is at such an...

There is no need to show the laggard causes the leader. Are you saying co2 follows therefore it cannot warm, or not. co2 follows therefore it cannot warm co2 follows therefore it can warm Which is it?

You said "People who believe in God’s Son are not judged guilty. its the Perfect choice.". Adolf Hitler believed in God’s Son. He made that 'Perfect choice'. Therefore by your own piously arrogant words, Hitler is not judged guilty. No amount of twisted Catholic apologetics will make what you...

What are you trying to say? co2 follows therefore it cannot warm co2 follows therefore it can warm Which is it You can't have it both ways "hard to show the laggard is causing the leader"... is false . There is nothing very hard in showing how the laggard affects the leader. What's...

I don't know who you mean by "we" but certainly there are claims that say "co2 follows therefore it can not warm" and it was raised in a preceding post. And tell me, if "we are not saying co2 follows therefore it can not warm." why are "we" , that is you, saying it now, in your latest...

Adolf Hitler believed in God’s Son. If you have the choice to either believe in God’s Son and be not judged guilty -or- not believe in God's son and be judged guilty, that is the very definition of Hobson's choice. Love your neighbor as yourself (unless they are a slave / homosexual etc etc...

To say CO2 can't cause temperature to rise because it is seen to lag temperature, is to say chickens can't lay eggs because they are seen hatch from them. I think that explanation is given and expanded upon fully at skeptical science.

The study you brought up in this thread, the one we have been discussing, is Shaviv's and you happened to mention Salby, so my comment was relevant. Nothing to do with related threads. Miskolczi found little support from his peers many of whom seem to find his 'theory' is based on untenable...

When the only studies that appear to you as believable are Shaviv and Salby against overwhelming scientific evidence, then of course man made emissions will seem less likely to be relevant. But for you to say man made emissions are insignificant is, to put it scientifically, bullshit...

jeezus man chill out. Talk about miserable AND overreaction.

I wasn't aware I referred specifically to Laken. The observed data countering Shaviv is much more recent. I do however acknowledge your willingness to post the comment above, where we have Shaviv advising Salby that anthropic activity is greater than Salby is allowing for!! That really is...

What is my point? Really!? Your point appears confused piezoe but thanks for expanding. It's like you have been hypnotized by the likes of Shaviv and Salby but at the same time recognize the flaws in their ideas, though you seem to want to step around them for no good apparent reason. Even if...

They'll make any, same and similar claims as GW deniers. I suggest for your own sake, you don't rely on your memory for anything important.

I have not referred to solar luminosity. I said all solar activity and as for Cosmic Flux, there is nothing new! It goes back to Henrik Svensmark in 2003 and is mired in controversy. Shaviv's work from 2005 was left wanting to put it politely by other direct research and in 2012, when...

Stop being disingenuous. My patience is no more infinite than yours. Salby has not published for peer review in all the years he could have. As far as Shaviv is concerned, if you are a scientist then you will at least understand that it is the SCIENCE not the SCIENTIST that matters. What the...