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Genesis has been exposed as NOT any of the things you stridently insisted it was. It does not match any comprehendable record of any kind. You simply saying it does will not make it so. Go back and read what you posted on the subject! It is just bordering on the dishonest to wash your hands...

Ok shoeshine I am not mad either,l@@k I am smiling :) but may I ask, are you just having a laugh with this??? Just once more then, although any hope of credibility coming from you is looking very shaky.... Genesis Verse 1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis...

You wrote previously..."Genesis "coincidentally" provides the exact sequence of the astronomical and archaeological record" Note the words you use shoeshineboy .....[Genesis]... provides the exact sequence of the astronomical and archaeological record" Genesis 1: In the beginning God...

Thanks for your explanations alfonso. Ok, let's look at that. I'm not sure that's the best way to begin. Sure, this was a car or a golf ball or a piece of pre-cambrian rock we might want to define what we are discussing, but God is so much more an abstract concept that, imo, by his very...

No you have not shown that shoeshine, not at all.... How planets form is very well scientifically documented and Genesis does not fit with it. The solar system is understood to have formed from the compression of gases causing super cosmic heating. The Sun and the planets are said to...

doubter, People are fallible so applying the scientific method is fallible. People don't have all the information so the application of science is fallible. Applying methods of Science is an attempt to build and improve on useful findings which are the very least fallible. Numerous...

or just plain wrong... yes but you know it is just plain wrong because other science, or practical logical deduction shows it to be. And you try to do better. When the "science" or practical logical deduction of religion is just plain wrong as axeman described the Genesis nonsense to be...

Science = Technology. Science as a method to enable development of technology. hhmm...let's see how can chips be faster and cooler.. ooooo I know use atoms instead of etching silicon layers. How do atoms work oooo ...I know build some technology to tell or us..... errm no use don't know...

Big problem with that doubter, it works equally well for believing in religion. Unlike religion, Science shows how things CAN and ARE achieved, not by humans fiddling the statistics because they want to be published. Even if they get away with that, SCIENCE will find them out. And you...

So will the findings of science which brought you your computer, become untrue tomorrow and determine your computer is wrong? Or will it's findings "become untrue" and a better one evolve for you.

God luv ya ElCubano :) It wasn't truth or fact, but only faith. Ahh... if only that easy. I guess it can just be faith if you want, but it only suggests sloppy and fuzzy answers to stuff. Keep well.

So you are now asking Joe lottery to find 1 particular dime in a sea of dimes. Why? How does that equate to the question of intelligent design?? How does that relate to the chances of something coming from nothing and not from intelligent design ?? Why only one Joe Lottery? Is this somehow...

alfonso, No probs, but can I please be D'Artagnan. I think he was the youngest and had the biggest weapon. I hear what you say. I do however think there are a couple of things you may be overlooking. If most atheists consider atheism is the intellectual slam dunk of debate (I contest...

Shoeshineboy, I am assuming you are showing this as math which is supposed to prove - for intelligent design groups - that the odds are against a universe and life being able to cause itself. Trying to use math (these groups would try to misuse science also) is false and misleading...

If there is a mathematical improbability that the universe would exist within a precise combination, then the math is inappropriate or incomplete ... because the universe and life DOES exist. So the math is not reflecting an understanding for the proposition. Therefore you cannot reliably use...

Can I put the same money on you turning up alfonso? You don't particularly sound emotionally detached yourself, if you don't mind me saying. So if shoeshine or any one else makes a categorical statement on the ET board such as "...it matches the astronomical and fossil record perfectly" then...

Do you applaud Neil in the same way for his patience and love for his wife? Isn't Neil a 'good one' also ? Isn't it the patience and love alone that counts, needless of an interference by some mythical overlooker presenting threats of confusion and contradiction into patient, meaningful and...

A local flood won't wash either, shoeshineboy! If a local flood then how would God's judgement avenge itself on those people outside the Mesopotamian area? A local flood would have meant these folks gave God the slip. Why were birds put on the ark if the flood was local? They could have...

GG I think you now have your answer. Mr Sub has identified you were looking at cell refernces I wrongly asummed you were looking for cell values. If you are looking for references then dbTrader has it with the "indirect address" formula, but it should refer to B1 not A1. Put dbTrader's...

GG select both cells by dragging your cursor over them so they are both greyed Move your cursor over the little square shape in the lower right of the greyed frame until you get a solid cross cursor. Left click and hold down on the cross dragging it down to the cells you want. The...