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You would go away rather than acknowledge you should perhaps alter your viewpoint due to the overwhelming evidence presented to you? That sounds like a very closed mindset you have there. You will have great difficulty in establishing just one atheistic aseertion has been made, not to...

hey Gordo, Well done dude. Would this be a good time to enquire if you might be interested in a timeshare idea I know of in Afghanistan ? Good luck...Keep it up !

More amusing to watch people use irrational and unsupported notions of order from designers, when they do not know any of that is not false, or to be more likely than Santa. One day, like the children who eventually become aware of the real nature of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and...

The pretty much generally accepted worldwide raison d'etre for religious following is that an all powerful infinite God made everything and governs all by his standards of right and wrong. A follower is expected to abide by a set of demands which they would state are set down by the infinite...

I don't quite follow this shoeshine. Are you saying you don't believe in blind faith but you would believe in a religion where some supporting "supernatural, circumstantial or behavior modifying changes" have an effect on someone's life? Surely..."Supernatural, circumstantial or behavior...

Why is it "Freudianizing" religious believers to state that religion is based on things invisible, unknowable ? Looking at any religious claim I have ever come across indicates that IS what religion is based upon... Gods and things put forward as invisible and unknowable. If you do not...

Quite so and well said Jem, I agree - neither would I. Neither would anyone else I suggest, who is interested in reaching purposeful and rational conclusion, especially to such an important question of existence and creation. Based on sound evidence, it is in my view essential to at least...

[/b]I am so glad shoeshineboy,. But thank goodness you spoke to someone who is knowledgeable !! :D Just imagine if you had spoken to someone who took pleasure and joy in putting misinformation about the place. Someone who didn’t ask somebody knowledgeable before he posted up incorrect and...

This is not a concession.!! It is merely that you cannot know it is not that way You asked me to concede to 2 big assumptions for the sake of argument (1&2). You should not then assume I must therefore also conceed to the third one you made.. In the same way you say (1)God exists and...

thanks for your response darkhorse, and as always, I appreciate the courtesy you display and hope you understand that my intention is to reciprocate in like manner :) I’ll take the time’s sake excuse please :D I agree with your definitions of anthropocentric and an "anthropocentric view...

Charming, thanks a lot shoe, I luv you too. Smug eh ? I would have you know I am regarded very highly in certain circles of society ....many people have said I am a cult in my own right ( least I think they said cult ....it sounded like cult.) So watch it man :D But just .... what are you...

Shoeshineboy, May I make a suggestion. to you There is little point in running into the party room, shitting in the punch bowl and running off, other than to make yourself look like a.....well let's just say......... party pooper. Slapping down one duff "fact" after the next is a bit...

[/b]I have a new keyboard……..the novelty will wear off :D [/b]PAGE 99 eh?? Well now fancy that. I thought so !! So this now becomes the semi-religion of the creationist. The same religion that said the earth was flat and the engine that drove the catholics’ spanish inquisition...

Why…because I attempt to show your viewpoint as dissembled ??? No Go darkhorse. On the grounds of the argument you make by your proposal, IF God exists then God - in the same way as you would have the morality of God as anthropocentric - is also anthropocentric. You never get past that...

Can you not make a distinction between a joke and a dodge…. in the similar way which it appears you cannot make a distinction between implausible and God.??

I'm not reading Hooters Weekly just to look intelligent you know :D

The process of reasoning may well lead to conclusion, it often can. A lack of evidence in the courtroom appears to leave arguments of science in a quest for ever more rationale, whereas the arguments of divinity are regularly dismissed for too much unsafe testimony. I see no substantive...

Isn't that the kind of patronizing supercilious pomposity that you wanted people not to assault YOU with. Using big numbers to misrepresent theses people is where the fault lies. A true geek would deal only in true numbers. Again I say yours are not the numbers of reputable scientists, they...

Well I think we are just batting back and forth here. >>:)We now seem to be agreeing:)<< though that a reducing atmosphere IS conducive to the synthesis of organic molecules. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, the early primitive atmosphere of earth was mostly formed from volcanic out...

I am sorry for that. I thought it was clear enough to be taken only as a simple analogy as to how molecules/atoms do not rely on chance, but rather that they are attracted to each other for specific observable reasons. I intended this to reflect toward similar observation where amino acid...