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ok.... and the point you make is ?... Well thank god . At last ! You have no choice but to implement relativistic logic and senses ONLY, to choose what you want to trust, there is nothing else. Every conclusion or assumption you make is available because of your relativistic logic and senses...

nononsense, Thanks for the clarification. My reaction was to assume you wished to alter meaning. For example, using quotation marks around the word "proof" , becomes an inference suggesting a statement something of the kind... " ..well 'proof', whatever THAT means, and what is 'proof'...

rgelite , Time is precious indeed, too precious to waste, but I am glad you take the time to explain your thoughts. I for one don't think it was time wasted. stu :)

Art, I summarize your argument (as if it can be called argument:D) as such: Your premise is (correct me if I'm wrong lol!), You are like a faulty computer, so am I, so is everyone. You suggest the means by which all information is able to be evaluated, assimmilated, weighed and...

And so, as ever, the ART of patronizing insult takes over from debate, tut tut. Read again. I did not say brute rules , I said brute facts. But you have no choice. You can protest all you like but it does not change the brute facts. Be my guest, I am still waiting. Use whatever you like...

rgelite, I was interested by your proposition that [paraphrasing].. ideas should be taken seriously and that debate will make for a more useful forum. That would be a pleasant change, but I think you will struggle hard to achieve such a laudable aim. For instance, notice all the ""s...

Nothing circular by QED. You haven't pointed anything out other than the brute fact that you have to work by the same "rules" as I do. There are no rules by "Faith". Faith = Faith is circular anarchy. You prefer illogical games, obviously because your argument by Faith is groundless by...

Then by the same token, You have just used relativstic logic ( I would say illogic) to support a relativistic conclusion... that I have not proved it.:D I would also remind you it is not me who is looking for "Hardly absolute." QED will do for starters !

I did. I QED'd it. Read again.

Read again ART I backed up the statement with definition. Now disprove it. It's not a game. How odd you only "play" with absolutes. Therefore I take it .... you never play ! ps. it is cheating to edit your post after I posted mine :D

Cut the gratuitous insults and I will debate with you ...otherwise piss off !

So just where is the " If__________________, then _________________." in this statement "For something to exist it must be in time and space"

Helllloooo ART ....right on cue :D:D:D

.....yes! For something to exist it must be in time and space. If it is outside time and space, it does not exist, as existence is definable by humans only as relative to time and space. But furthermore, stuff outside of time and space is incoherent. If God thingy created time and space...

LOL Luv it :D

They didn't. duh..#1 You are deviating yet again.. That is not a cure !! duh..#2!! The cure (prevention in this case) comes later... if they find a cure !.. This is about... 'CHOOSING NOT TO USE this "God given talent" ' as you describe it. This is not about USING IT !! duh..#3 To...

Right. So you find your statement, even if it were true, somehow supports what??. That the "devout christian" Kurt Gödel with his Incompleteness Theorem , stopped the potential development of Bertrand Russell, who turned out to be one of the most brilliant thinkers of all time, even...

Society finds balance. The most practical of which has proven to be via democratically structured Law based systems. Constantly questioning looking for rational answer to stupid suggestions, ridiculous propositions, defining who really are the liars and cheats, is not a waste of time...

How does humankind eradicate diseases for which there is no known technology to overcome?? How does humankind eradicate ALL suffering when there are babies born with congenital disease for which there is no known cure ?? How does humankind eradicate ALL suffering when suffering is caused...

They, Try to Focus ! "Dust Never Becomes Life" you say !! You are incorrect According to the Bible Dust Becomes Life It is The Bible which demands that believers have this baseless faith. It is founded on the Bible that some people think life came from dust material !!! Science...