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Do not see any of that as good example either.....because for one thing,what you say is just not so... There is an overwhelming abundance of material making things from other material. The universe is made of material making things from other material and shows example after example of...

There is an impatience and frustration in your tone that betrays the struggle of your own rationality attempting to view the light of day. Going off what you say above and what you say next, apparently it is in effort against the odds. If you want to be less inflammatory, quit the false...

Your spontaneous cluster headache may be due to the emphasis you inserted onto the word know. Axeman had no qualms about stating the word and using its clear and meaningful definition . On the other hand you encased the word with quotation marks, denoting (from my take of this)know as...

People may well feel that, but I do not see how it is connected with my statement ...... "Where there is no claim, there is nothing to be agnostic about. When the extraordinary God Claim is made, it is usually made as True, but the claim cannot be shown True. Agnosticism is NOT the only...

Where there is no claim, there is nothing to be agnostic about. When the extraordinary God Claim is made, it is usually made as True, but the claim cannot be shown True. Agnosticism is NOT the only rational position where there is nothing to be agnostic for. There is no need to be agnostic...

Laborious enough thanks - simply confirming the meanings of words with you. No need to put yourself out any further. I did not suggest two groups have not or could not end up in completely different places . So why bring it up? I wouldn't bet on shoe agreeing with anything, including what he...

....must be the religious mindset what causes it. Safe journey Turok.

LOL, you did the Lunar Event.... kiss me shoe :D .... and where exactly did I ever say you were a liar ??? If I did then I owe you an apology as I try never to call anyone a liar. If I didn't, but simply pointed out how you were wrong about Genesis being "scientifically correct"...

Now that is plain silly. Just why the hell would that insult you !! They SHARE the same core God of the old testement. If there is another God of the old testament perhaps you may enlighten me to what that is, apart from another new spin off of an original God idea, I know of none. They...

damir, I appreciate the point you make and think I understand it. I think in fairness though I was talking in regard to the Judeo Christian religionist in the context of 'Christ and dying for sin' etc. They do and must proclaim there is but one god. However a religionist by definition, would be...

Recapping I see an predictable pattern arising from the shoeshine..... Step 1, ShoeshineBoy: "All I can say is that your numbers are simply leaving out the explosive growth of charismatic and evangelical Christianity. I'm afraid it is your researcher that is living in the dream world..."...

Grow up shoe you sound like a kid. What is it that you are so scared of ,you can't discuss here?? Me??

Pleeeze come on damir. What else am I doing. Challenge critisize what do you think I am posting?? Luv notes to TradeForChrist or something??? It is the religionist who demands one true God, no arguments, the Bible as a sacrosanct word of God. Whilst at the same time insisting it should be re-...

There was no need for you to respond that way was there ? You feel a need to insult?? Why ?? you big wus ! Give me one side comment you are referring to which is out of context in my recent posts to make it worthy of criticizm for making your blood Boil. Debate it . See if you can see past...

I am sorry you feel that way shoeshine, I see no trash talk, I made none, I intended none. I think your response is uncalled for and unreasonable My take of your remarks is that you are offended by an alternative view which is not acquiescent to your way of thinking. Whilst at the same time...

Inspired by shoeshine, perhaps like many before have been inspired but probably in a different way for different reasons ! ....here is the - translation of scripture translating itself - which I understand shoeshine states is valid as interpretation of what is meant by God's Word...

I would agree with you , there is little in the Bible that is obvious. It is full of contrariety, contradiction and dubiety. You have adequately demonstrated this by arguing, in Bible terms Fire is a figurative description of something else. The upshot being misi-interpretation...

...then some questions of you ... 1 Last time I raised this, you didn't want to debate it remember..pg 51 ? "...So you can now leave the rest of us to face the consequences of our decisions". Do I take it you have changed your mind ? If so..... 2. Please claify. Is it that you are...

LOL. Thanks for that Doubter, you restored my FAITH in human nature. You aint without humor :) And you define sin as? I understood you support a theistic point of view. Sin Christ Bible...you tell me what definition of sin Christ is supposed to have died for. I am told by your goodself...

Embarrassing ?! ...I tell you about embarrassing. I am left stood at the deep end of a swimming pool, whilst Doubter is wading about , checking up on all those who might have weed in it. However, he's failed to notice the water pee indicator colorizer agent is following him everywhere he goes!