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    Under God

    Hundreds and thousands of words, in trying to argue 10 words mean something else than what they say. Reams of text attempting to establish the Founders could not have the intellect nor integrity to choose their words wisely, for proper understanding and use by the generations to follow. Your...
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    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" I don't see the word endorsement, do you? Can you endorse a religion, without establishment of it? Sure you can. So you see the letter a in a sentence which doesn't have the letter a in it. A religion . How strange that...
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    I did not introduce the word or term endorsing as part of the Amendment. You are incorrect. I introduced the word to describe what government were doing with religion, when passing religious words into law. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." Nothing...
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    You have heard of the word denominational? Yes. I have heard of the word denominational and I have heard of the word God. But if there is not meaning for one then by the rule that makes it so, there is not meaning for the other. What particular denomination of religion is the...
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    Then you think incorrectly. Then ,what does that word mean? do these words even mean anything yet? you, what does that word mean? do these words even mean anything yet? think, what does that mean? do these words even mean anything yet? incorrectly, what does that mean? do these words even...
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    Under God

    Religion endorsed by government is also against the interest of religion. It soon becomes endorsement which is not to the liking of all particular religions and offensive to particular sects of religion. eg:Baptists are separationists , 'Christians' are not. Religion is divisive because it...
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    Under God

    I think you confuse the English language with mathematics. Miscommunication and misunderstand happens all the time between the living, not to mention the over 200 year old words of the dead. Then you think incorrectly. I asked you a question. It is unmistakable what they wanted to convey in...
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    What exactly were they wanting to communicate in the document? Exclusion of the word God? Or exclusion of the government from establishing a specific state religion or religious practices that would endanger the rights of the citizens to be free to practice their own religion or non religion of...
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    Your argument suggests that there is no definition in any words or sentence until someone adds it. But you do have words, context, definition, meanings in the words of the Pledge and the Constitution. What is the definition and context which you do not understand in the words "Congress...
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    Not difficult at all. The words speak for themselves. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. All you appear to want to do is say words have no meaning until someone puts their own meaning to them.
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    Under God

    You have to ask Americans what they are affirming. That is the beauty of the pledge and America, no one is telling them what the word God means, or should mean for them. The mainstream, if measured, is done so in public opinion polls. You and the atheists who wish to alter the pledge are...
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    Under God

    The mainstream of society is not the American community at large. Society whether mainstream or not, is a sub set of the American community at large. There was no mention of society. Your contradiction remains. The atheists have made a choice that places them outside of the mainstream...
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    In fact you have. If you say: "Atheists are outside of the American community at large, that is a fact "then you follow by saying: "No one is putting them outside of the community at large,..." You have contradicted yourself. Yours is an argument for coercive conformity. Americans stating...
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    Under God

    A conversation about “under God.” By stu, with very few apologies to William F. Buckley Jr. “Excuse me, sir. Are you Maureen’s father?” John Dickson looked over at the children playing on the school playground. He ducked, but the football grazed his questioner, bloodying his...
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    Quote from Optional 777 "Atheists are outside of the American community at large, that is a fact" ..then you next say... " No one is putting them outside of the community at large,..." In fact... you have contradicted yourself. quote from Optional 777 Under God was...
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    To put Americans outside the American community at large, is not American. To be outside the mainstream thought process, has served America well in the past. It was and is the right thing to be 'outsiders' to slavery and racism for instance, when the mainstream accepts and indulges in such...
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    Under God

    .....then no harm done for any reference of God or Gods to be kept out of school. Many other words used by theists are not encouraged inside school either.
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    Optional777, the essay uses the language of a bigot... "Atheists are "outsiders" in the American community. " Sending a message to law abiding freedom loving Americans that they are outsiders in the community because they hold a specific opinion, is probably a message inspired by the...
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    An essay probably inspired by ignorance and fear. Freedom of religion includes freedom from religion. I would prefer to rely upon Thomas Jefferson's wall of separation between church and state. The imposition of religion as a means to have others conform to religious opinion, violates...
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    Materialists

    Why do you jump out of context like that?? I just do not see how on earth (pun intended) that has anything to do with materialism or materialists in the way being discussed. Why have you decided it is extraordinary to test if life first came from outside earth? Microorganism to human still...
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