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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Can we expect all your arguments to become subject to a tongue in cheek irony metamorphosis at the point when they become effectively wrecked ?
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    You can find time defined in Physics from Galileo to Newton to Einstein. It is an illusion according to metaphysics not physics. Metaphysics of course is as near to pseudo-physics as it is possible to get without actually naming it so. Like salvation it's all in the mind. A case of...
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Maverick1, I have read carefully what you say, as it is obviously thoughtful and considered. I would like to respond directly to the main points you have raised as follows: It would not be possible to constructively engage the points you raise because in effect you have closed off the...
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    I would respectfully suggest to you Maverick1, I think it's your logic which renders the discussion un-debatable. To my mind your basis of debate artificially forces conclusion to a standstill. I think it fair to say people would generally accept the idea that if someone were once...
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    jefferis, You can tell right off if I am interested in serious discussion by whether or not I believe in Fairies? I think you are making a very big mistake. Can you explain how would anyone tell right off someone is any the more interested in serious discussion by whether or not they believe...
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Really jeffries, it should not be a matter of whether I do or do not believe in fairies should it?. Your advice, if it is good advice, should apply irrespective of my or anyone else’s beliefs or non beliefs. You advised hcour as to what is a more reasonable approach for what you say is...
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    jefferies, read again what you have written above here in your quote. You are doing what you are accusing me of - the fallacy of the irrelevant conclusion: the extraneous fact there is the Easter Bunny. To avoid any ambiguity, I explicitly made reference to God Allah and God Vishnu. Not the...
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    Is there an order in the Universe?

    come on jem, I hold out the hand of peace and goodwill to you. Let's bury the hatchet (or the 'axe-chet ' (gettit? :)) After reading that (I hope you agree) rather excellant post of 2 cents, let's try to understand each other a little better. Waddya say eh? :)
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    jefferis , I think it fair to say it is commonly understood these days to be simply wrong and reprehensible to tell someone what they do and do not believe in. In this regard your remark is bordering on offensive and is certainly out of order. My children have enjoyed extraordinary...
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Ok, you are saying my question was a loaded one. Then let me re phrase it so there is no ambiguity. Why should not everything be approached from the same empirical standpoint. Your advice is "God cannot be dis-proved so approach the problem from an empirical standpoint". Are you agnostic...
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    Is there an order in the Universe?

    I can't see how anyone can believe in a randomly created universe either especially as there is no evidence it is random or that it is created.
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    tell me where is the trap, I don't see it? Your advice is God cannot be dis-proved so approach the problem from an empirical standpoint. Your advice is , agnosticism is a more reasoned approach. That is what you said, please correct if I am wrong. So why should Fairies not be approached...
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    ...would that be a yes or a no or a don't know?
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    jefferis may I ask ... because you cannot devise "a test to test a theorem" that Fairies do not exist, especially since the proposed nature of Fairies is not material but extra dimensional are you agnostic about Fairies. Are you agnostic also about the Faires that have more attributes than...
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    Is there an order in the Universe?

    jem, Well thank you for your unusually polite explanation of how you disagree with the Catholic Church on this and other subjects and how you say the Church disagrees with itself on matters of science and physics. But you say you agree with the Cardinal of Susskind that... "the...
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    You gave your interpretation of a definition of free will..ie your definition. When scrutinized it fell apart.
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    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Indeed you may argue humans have free will, but can you produce anything in substantial evidence that confirms they do. Something that "happened just not in the past the present or the future"..... more likely hasn't happened.
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    Is there an order in the Universe?

    What you do not like jem, is to be pinned down to specifically explain the misrepresented material which is already your claim . You display a preference for grabbing quotes and spinning them to fit your own tune as you have done in this thread, but when called to account , that is when you...
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    Is there an order in the Universe?

    straight question jem, what do YOU mean by a universe designed?
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    Is there an order in the Universe?

    My dear Cuban, look, just who the f*k asked you :D:p let jem do the dirty work...."Look troll " "You are a little slime ball" "you choose to argue like a little kid " "You are a piece of work." "As far as the rest of you non-responsive mush minded crap.... " So jem's...
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