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ddunbar, Reading with interest your comments through these last pages. I think it estimable the way you have succinctly established that imperative for clear distinction between what constitutes religious belief and what constitutes science . It is notable that neither Teleologist nor...

You may want to consider either doing some homework revision or give up the slippy word play. To all intents and purposes the philosophy which -is methodological naturalism -is the scientific method in action.. Every philisophical idea belief and assumption within methodological...

Methodological naturalism is science, is philosophy. Its philosophical propositions can be observed/ tested/ falsified in science and are found to equate, and therefore represent the scientific method. So both from a philosophical and a scientific point of view, methodological naturalism stands...

The philosophy behind it ... is not taught in science class. No double standard. I am sure you are aware that naturalism, as philosophy, is the understanding that the world can be known about in scientific terms. As philosophy, methodological naturalism must be so - in terms that can be...

Whilst " methodological naturalism is considered to be the cornerstone of modern science " , the bedrock of modern and classical science on which that cornerstone rests , is and has always been, the scientific method .. Using philosophy in the form of methodological naturalism is strong...

rcanfiel, 1) React/respond to posts, whether or not you have a clue what they said your post contained this,...... "- Avoid too much sun - causes melanomas. Whoops,actually, avoiding sun too much causes many more deaths (eg, Vitamin D). " I used it as an example, for all the other...

No, ID/Creationism is just useless. It's not science, it's poor philosophy and religion is arguably a better art form. As ID/Creationism is not science , by all means try it out in the Philosophy class. and if you want intelligent design to be held without the supernatural, put it up with...

He'll be from the old school .. // runs in the room pees in the punch bowl shouting at the bar staff 'I don't understand why you did that' // ... type. Doesn't realize he makes ridiculous statements and simply because they are pointed out as such, blames everyone for not being able to...

philosophy class then, it's not science. If Teleology is a scaffold, it has only one pole lost behind the toilets in a builders yard somewhere in another galaxy. Of little use here on earth.

... ok so you are stuck with a ridiculous argument you cannot support. You could have been a little more honest about that, instead of floundering quite so embarrassingly the way you are.

No need. The position is clear your statements are ridiculous. okay so... mathematics, philosophy/logic, art/humanities, (animal/human) psychology,.... is not grouping in your world. whilst mathematics, philosophy, logic, art, humanities, (animal and human) psychology, ... is...

Yes really. Mathematics through humanities rely on the scientific method. Math to the point of proof Also you still appear to be grouping incompatible areas eg: philosophy/logic-. they do not necessarily fit together that way. Art/humanities same. Every one of your arguments listed in your...

Or how about this ...make all sorts of silly statements, create as many false arguments and incorrect assertions as possible. A method used for arguing against the fact it is as clear as day that science through the scientific method is the only means by which it has ever been possile for...

...that's curious , you want proof the universe formed naturally but you only need it to "look like" it was ID/Created.

So Teleologist, you want to swop essays.... Robert J. Schneider EVOLUTION FOR CHRISTIANS "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution." ..or perhaps first it may be an idea to convince these 10,000 clergy folk of your ID/Creationist support agenda ... Michael...

umm, I tell you what , don't piss around with my fairy tale and I won't mess with yours

The Three Bears Chapter 1 verses 20 to 24 1. 20 Goldilocks was very tired by this time, so she went upstairs to the bedroom. 1. 21 She lay down in the first bed, but it was too hard. 1. 22 Then she lay in the second bed, but it was too soft. 1. 23 Then she lay down in the third...

"The Big Bang wrote Moby Dick.". Scott Adams well at least now we know what unintelligent design looks like

so says the ID/Creationist . Neither Darwin nor science states that. And there your philosophical non scientific adjunct lies exposed for what it is. A metaphysical inference shielded only by a assertion of mysteriousness, trying to dishonestly include itself into science...