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i agree, if the campus/students that organized the event wanted a representation of both views, they should have organized a debate, roundtable, etc the idea that minutemen are in the wrong in their effort to assist law enforcement, on the grounds that borders are unethical or inhumane...

assuming pabsts post is true, it would appear that free speech in america is threatened regardless of the party in power. reprehensible from both sides it seems case-by-case is the prudent way to evaluate these situations, and in this case so far it looks like the secret service acted unlawfully

i didn't start this thread to get into the minuteman thing. for obvious reasons i'm hesitant to say any more about my friend here. it does conveniently go to show however that when you generalize the people you're talking to here, you never know what their affiliations are. everyone you...

you misread me man. i said he was on the minuteman side. say whatever you want, ur dead wrong here. it's a smaller world than you think when you come out of the woods just try and avoid the sweeping partisan generalizations .. unless you want to intentionally identify as a radical

i just see a pattern on your part where whenever these questions come up, you instantly side with the right wing partisan pov, regardless of the issue. the cheney arrest article as well as an nyt article today on the incident both seem to point to it being a simple free speech issue, not an...

look guy, i know the minuteman that ripped the sign in half. take my word for it lol geez the rest of ur babble there is ridiculous generalization. 'the liberal left' ... so what you're saying is that half the country doesn't believe in free speech and smokes pot while playing hackey...

i know someone who was personally front and center on the minuteman side, and as he described it to me, the protesters walked up with a sign, rude, albeit peacefully, and the minuteman guys stormed the stage it's interesting aaa that you approach the issue in the article with a bias against...

http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc100406 Criticizing Cheney to His Face Is Assault? By Matthew Rothschild October 4, 2006 Steve Howards says he used to fantasize about what he’d say to President Bush or Vice President Cheney if he ever got the chance. That opportunity arrived on...

then ask a high end securities lawyer and they will say yes. ..at least if the intent is not to manipulate or cirvumvent upticks or tax deferral, but simply to get around short inventory problems. i should probably direct the question to IB compliance since the issue is really with...

i'm getting mixed answers on this same q from a variety of well informed sources. still looking for a definitive answer

why did bush resist the 911 commission so severely and insist on forming it himself? that's the position of someone with something to hide.

do you know don, is the box illegal when no uptick is required?

lol traderNIK you're a passive aggressive little p*ssy. don't be a hypocrite and face me like the man you say you are. anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of chitchat :) someone's obviously holding a grudge. ur the only person in cyberspace who still gives a shit...

lol you'll be smug about that until the day you die like an old fart who shows people his JV football trophies. sad :)

lol you're the one that brought him up (to compare to bush)

not only that, from an MSNBC story about bush's immediate reactions while still at the elementary school: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14684993/page/2/#storyContinued For Hughes, one special moment of bizarre normalcy crystallized her confidence in Bush. “I remember once the Secret Service...

20 mins even, i believe then has the gumption to say his first thought was 'what a bad pilot' with all the lights 'Blinking Red' about a pending al qaeda attack involving hijackings going on in his administration, and clear awareness of both use of domestic aircraft and well known precedents...

what we see is an administration that keeps having to backtrack and revise their story on what they knew and what they did to prepare for 911. they even fiercely resisted the creation of an investigatory panel, insisted on creating it themselves which plainly lacks objectivity. if they keep...

there were several publicly known precedents where islamic terrorists were apprehended and discovered to have intended kamikaze attacks on landmark buildings using hijacked aircraft, not to mention the WTC was a known target...

i'm mystified by the lack of NORAD response and readiness. here you had an administration completely aware of a system that was 'Blinking Red', your DCI is frantic about it, anti-terror advisor is freaking out, calling meetings with everyone he can, your attorney general stops flying...