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I don't hate Fox, nor MSNBC. I just see it for what it is.

The fact that you make judgments says a lot about u as well 777. Remember, this nation was founded by a bunch of "terrorists". Tell me, what business, is not, de facto, organized crime?

I do not disagree with that. For the record, I admire the mafia too. Or I should say that I do not judge them. Almost everyone has an agenda 777. It is fun to find out what it is, and to watch the wheels go round and round.

Be careful with that guilt by association argument, as bearice as very clearly pointed out.

Where do you keep getting this, nobody hires blacks, crap? Except for the Army, I never worked for the government, and I have to hide under my bed to get a day off, from private sector companies, no less.

I could see that based on your post. Glad I could help:)

Of course you can, they are propagandists, just like Fox. That is why the word news is in parentheses. Oy vey!

Since Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh gave news:D

My post is broken into two parts, as evidenced by the use of a period. Fox has higher ratings. This is a fact. Therefore, it is news. The second part was prefaced by the words, I think. Ipso facto, it is opinion. See how logic works?

See Mav, caught u in a bias. Let me post this again. –noun 1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc. These groups believe they are doing a service to their constituents by painting pictures to...

Okay, Mav, I will quailfy my statement and say, they use propaganda only at night.(When everybody is watching)

Fox has much higher ratings. I think it is because they give, "news" as well as entertainment to it's sheep. MSNBC, just gives "news"

Well if you disagree Mav, that is fine with me, but that does not change the reality of it. It is propaganda. prop·a·gan·da    [prop-uh-gan-duh] –noun 1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution...

MSNBC does not waste time with the sham. Do you think Hannity and Combs was about providing dissenting points, or about Hannity beating up on a rag doll? Reminded me of WWE:D

I used to work third shift. I would watch Olberman, Maddow, Matthews, and go over and watch Hannity, O'Reilly, and Beck( until he jumped the shark) I would catch all of em in distortions. News channels are supposed to shoot down the middle. That is the difference between news pieces and...

By the way Mav, I plan on driving Hybrid too, as soon as it gets built.:D <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/s0ysj81EjAo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

We were talking about FOX, not MSNBC. The point was that people should not complain about fox news. It is a business model, that is why I plus oned that post. Fox does a better job at tending it's sheep than msnbc. So much so that "the Ram" did not know Rupert Murdock was jewish.:D As long...

Im not sure what you mean by naive, Mav. I think FOX has a business model that is essentially trend following. They found a way to tap into a segment of the population, they know it's political leanings, and the entertainment is distinctly blue color, the bluest of blue. They know this...

Nah, Trump is not like Perot, he has made some serious business mistakes, and will be eviscerated when the time comes. Romney is the guy.

Ur funny Ram, confused, but funny:D