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A thread is nothing without participants, the opportunity to settle the random walk argument here at elite looms large. There are several great posts here that can help any level of trader.

Jack's methods are definitely money makers. Sydertrader is an excellent example of the benefits of understanding the price volume relationship. Once I learned to trade his methods, I went back to trying to find the "unified market theory." I am not rich, but I also realize that becoming a...

I think we have moved into talking about the non-randomness of randomness.:D

If human behavior is so predictable, then why don't we humans learn from past behaviors? Why are there bubbles? Why are there booms and busts?

VN was simple stating that there is no correlation to the patterns that we say can predict direction, is that not in fact true?

Living entities tend to take on different shapes. Can the shape of the market be determined BEFORE it is taken?

Hmmm, this could be a key post here. So, can the independent variable affect the dependent variable in a predictable way? There are some professionals that do not think so. ( I of course, am a rank amatuer)

Studying under Jack was very rewarding, his techniques help me view the market in an organized way. He taught how to use volume in analysis I trading his method for awhile, then the bug bit me to try to develop my very own system, so I began to do that. Jack does not believe that the...

I think I should post a little history. I started trading in 1999. My first stock was RMBS. For those who are newer, RMBS was then what GOOG is now. Nothing new under the sun. Then the bubble burst, I had to learn how to be a bear. I had to adjust, and readjust indicators, some canned...

Fooled by Randomness?:)

Thanks... Be sure to tell Vic that we are talking about him (again):D And could you ask him, what does he mean when he says, "good stock" and "good price"?

Very nice contribution!!!

Actually, Pekelo, that post is a good one. When you think you can predict the market, you are in effect trying to predict the future, which, if effect, makes you think you are a psychic. I don't believe in psychics, nor do I believe that the future is predictable, not in life, and not in...

All this to test what? Canned indicators? Head and Shoulders? So there Surfer hermit [/B] Okay, what I think VN is saying is that the usual suspects as far as indicators go...MACD, RSI, Stochastics, Head and Shoulders, Double bottoms, Triple bottoms, Average True Range, Doji, Dark...

No, I haven't.... What is it, and how does it relate to trading?

The Basics Don’t bet the rent on technical analysis Common sense sits head and shoulders above even the most widely accepted charting strategies. Here are the numbers to prove it. By Victor Niederhoffer and Laurel Kenner In times of great disaster and stress, we like to think of great...

The Gann debate will never have a satisfactory conclusion because people who cannot use will say it is bogus, those who can will not give it to those who cannot because they understand why Gann wrote the way that he did. If you do not Knock, Seek, and Ask, then you will not find.

May I ask why you discarded Gann's work as bogus?

Maybe it is because they actually provoke discussion:D :D Now, you may find this elementary. Of course, we will never know because you have never started a thread that had anything to do with trading:) Maybe the markets are only random from a two dimensional aspect....maybe a THREE...

If you are very serious about learning Gann, here is a link. Before this becomes clear to you, it will be necessary to study Astromony Astrology Gematria The Great Pyramid Natural Cycles Numerology Geometry After you are competent in ALL of these areas, the link will be very...