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But what I'd really like to see is some decent charting package using IB's data. Anyone heard of a good one? Thanks ~EC

Incredible.... I was thinking the same thing. ~EC

I tried their demo (full of bugs) and did not open an account. I talked to their reps a number of times. The ticket charge is negotiable... I think you can get it down to about $8.00 round trip. There are some traders in Paltalk rooms every morning that do use PFG and have for a couple years...

As far as I know you can't do that. I am curious.... why do you need that degree of granularity to trade? I'm usually just looking at a 1 minute chart to see if it breaks support or resistance and the T&S to see how heavy the trades are. Good luck. ~EC

I was with them for 6 months... $59.00 plus $10.00 for quotes. It was a good package but they are upgrading and having some issues so I'm not using them currently. I am using livecharts for nearly nothing at this time.

Look at www.dacharts.com.... "Google" uses Gartleys and has some info on this type of setup. Good Luck ~EC

Praetorian, do you know anything about ACS? Thanks

Which ones are not like WCom? Sell 'em!

Thanks for the response but the part I was lacking was the 3rd level of support and resistance. Seems like there is considerable variance in how it is calculated.

Found it the minute I posted. http://www.linnsoft.com/tour/techind/pp.htm (For anyone else wanting it)

I have searched everywhere but can't find the formula including Support 3 and Resistance 3 in Pivot Points derived from yesterday's HLC. Can anyone point me to the correct formula? Thanks ~EC

You said; "I am looking for 3 or 4 trades a day max, most days less. When I see newbies making 20 or 30 trades a day, I really wonder what it is you are seeing that I am missing. ". Right on.... my system triggers 4 to 6 times daily and 2 will be scratch trades a couple of them will amount to...

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For those who use TWS abroad over 56K modems what chart packages do you use? Are you daytrading the e-minis or swing/position trading? Is it possible to successfully daytrade the e-minis over 56K dial-up connections? Thanks ~EC

Talk to Praetorian2 if he is still around here. He posts to a room you can join for free. Good Luck! ~EC

I bought a copy... $3.21. They charge tax. Thanks for the response. ~EC

Could someone point to an article explaining how these differ and how to trade with the TIKI? Thanks

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Baron, is there a way we can download the chat log. I'd like to see what went on but couldn't get in either. Thanks ~EC

In reading Gary Smith's book "How I Trade..." the author mentions that Angell's methods were important in becoming profitable BUT he would never take Angell's seminar or use his system mechanically. For whatever value one might find in the "LSS Method" I'd suggest looking to the writings of...