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nuton, i don't think he was, but he might as well have been. i don't understand this fascination with seminars. tharp's is like 4 Gs too. why in the world you'd wanna pay that when you can essentially pick up the exact same info in his book is beyond me. granted if you are an idiot and...

chad, just out of curiousity (i'm sure others might be wondering too), what were u up to in the first four years after you registered your username?

i showed you how to tie a noose right? :)

all the best to u P2. out of everyone's styles i've heard of (not that many really), yours is definitely the most unique.. and from where i stand, probably the most unnerving, as i'd always be wondering whether the "G" in GNP is really all that "G" :) as far as 25% drawdowns go, i agree with...

well, no.. even if hedge funds returns were normally distributed (and i don't know if they are or not), a standard bell curve does not have to contain ANY funds that are up >40%..

naztrader, then you're not scalping are you... as for wcomtrader, i'm not sure which planet he's on...but if he's serious, that's some interesting shit..

and understandbly so, wouldn't you think? maybe you wouldn't. but because i can think of VERY FEW (none, in fact!) reasons why someone would ever want to share his trading methods with SO MANY people (we're talking hundreds if not thousands) i have to regard trading product vendors as full...

SEE! what'd i tell ya! u are ET's resident grasshopper!

what's a "quibit"?

say a prayer? again --> LOL and i COULD obeserve a moment of silence, but i just prefer to get on with living life.. see, i know enough about it to be able to live it without geting all caught up in the emotion of the moment... and, yep, no doubt about it, the "god bless them" comment is...

overtheline, in this part of the world, it's known as a "joke"..

oh man, i knew it! i knew the last couple years were just a temporary pullback! :) vulture, i sure hope you're right man! october 98 again! oh man, how i wish you are right!! (cos we all know what happend after 10.98 - gentelman, hold onto your hats!)

i guess you're assuming the fresh to the world newbie is actually gonna realise the importance of getting to the core of what the vendor's trading plan is... i wouldn't be so sure most newbies are... just look at the typical "i'm new, what should i do?" threads that get started up on ET...

all those things you mentioned are an edge, axeman. of course, some are bigger edge than others.. the word gets bandied about so much it's almost got a mystical ring to it... in trading REAL edges are pretty hard to come by.. for example, an edge where u consistently get the news before...

and how about those repulsive lions and tigers... all that raw meat..erghh... (and as for the indians... say no more.. the height of lunacy..)

exactly! of course it sucks to hear of such disasters.. but if i had to grab the tissue box every time an unfortunate incident occurred i'd never have time to live my OWN life... and just to make myself even more inhuman... what happened wasn't even all that bad! i cna think of a hundred...

no i never read "the stocktrader". i wouldn't mind reading it, i'll probably get around to it some time soon. from what i've heard that one was more of trading diary kind of thing wasn't it? i guess "how to take money" is more of a "this is important,.. here do this, this and this" kind of...

yeah, you or I, or anyone that's actually traded for a year or so could probably work it out... but if you can, then you probably dont need the guru anyway.. that's where the trading record comes in handy...it's not a panacea, but it's a hell of a lot better then the "i just love helping...

it's not the making of money itself that's a problem.. it's the method employed to make it... see the Resources thread for a current discussion on that.. as far as the journals go... what possible reason could brandon have to start that journal??? does he want unadulterated feeback on his...

Nihaba, shut up idiot.. there is nothing wrong about asking a trading product vendor to provide verification of his claims.. you got a free chatroom? ok, fantastic.. no one's gonna say anything about that.. it's crap like this that gets under people's skin: "$109 USD for each trade...