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Perhaps it is just me, but in the definitions you provided, it does appear that one can have evidence by way of experience to satisfy one's own belief in something (and it only has to fit one of the definitions of course).

Is that the definition of "evidence?" I'm too lazy to look it up, but does it have to be something you provide to another person? Isn't that what "proof" is?

Not at all true. There is ample evidence. The Learning Channel has had shows about the myriad archeological and historical evidence. There have been articles as well. Meanwhile, I did read one article claiming what you did, that slavery didn't happen. That article, however, was full of errors...

Cool. This confirms it. Your professional claims are as outlandish as your religious and debating claims.

Thanks for correcting the typo in my quote. Wow, that settles that argument! Whew! By the way, the following was your post before that: "axeman, nitro, gg, i missed the boat, You people have no morals because you believe there's no God. End of story. You can't give me scientific...

Actually, with all due respect I don't think he did, but your point is right. I think GG has given logical posts, but too many of his statements are absolutes (which I actually think he knows).

You know WIlliam Buckley, a brilliant man that I respect even though I disagree with him on many issues, announced that he was writing a book about his religious experience and all things associated with it. He started the book but never finished. He eventually gave up.

This is the common but inaccurate understanding of the recent history. First of all, some Jews remained in the Middle East, including in "Palestine" for thousands of years. In addition, there was a large migration of Jews in the early 1800s. Palestine in the early 20th century was a sparsely...

Why can't I have a moral code governed by a system of ethics formulated through reasoning and a conscious? You begin with the Golden Rule, then you consider such philosophies as the Categorical Imperative, Utilitarianism, and the flaws of feminist ethical relativism, and so on, and you reason...

First of all, it is not just any religion that causes these conflicts today. It is violent, hateful zealots, which around the world frankly have been mostly extremist Muslims. And bin Laden and other extremists don't simply hate us "because we support Israel." They hate us because we live and...

I thought I made it clear that I wasn't suggesting you argue for the sake of arguiing, or that you argue about religion. In fact, that is why I said about religion that not much can be argued except (only the weak and fallacious arguments can truly be addressed). . What I am saying is that if...

Rude as Danny boy is, these things he wrote occurred to me when I read dark horse's post. More generally, there are plenty of cases, now and in history (the Salem Witch Trials are one of too many to count) where people saw or claimed to see miraculous things that never happened.

There's nothing wrong with arguing against the mass. Throughout history the masses have been wrong about many things, both morally and scientifically. It is good to keep an open mind, and in this case as some of us have been saying all along, there is no proof one way or the other. All that we...

How so. If you make a great argument for something, then you may come to a stalemate, or you may lose because of WHAT you are arguing for, but you won't "lose" on technicalities as far as I can tell.

Why did people determine for thousands of years that the earth was flat? Why did slavery exist since early (or even before) "civilized" man. Thunderbolt, please IM me with which stocks you are long or short, so that I can use the info as a contrarian indicator. Whatever you are doing, I know...

I'm agnostic, and I wouldn't even say that I don't believe in God. I am undecided (permanently most likely).

By the way, I do not think you sounded at all crazy darkhorse. But as far as when you said that the reason people who feel strongly about their religion/spirituality do so because they have a relationship with God, and not for other reasons, I think that is right about many people. But I think...

2000? Which means that the data probably reflected 1999. Everything was different then!

I do think that dark should have apologized, not for verbal jousting but for the level of intolerance in his view. Without a doubt, there have been some atheists here who have been rude as well, but they did not suggest that there was no room for others with differing opinions, even if they...

You mean to tell me you have NEVER wasted 3 minutes worse than this? So you have never watched the Drew Carey show? You didn't watch any of the MLB all-star game? You never watched the market on a Friday afternoon this last month? I bet your wife could think of some wasted 2 minute periods, but...