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https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/is-topstep-trader-legit-or-a-scam.330510/page-8#post-5354028

boatprint,,,Agree 100% and this applies to all the Pay for Test pretend Prop not just TST Also what happens is those who take a the bet and fail just think about themselves and forgo the test fee as part of the experience.. it is sort of reverse of heard mentality... But for these companies...

It is amazing how much time a company spends on a such weird defense Time and again diff people have exposed this business model ( not just on e2T) - Not disclosing real account size ( that a trader gets) - Disclosing real ownership structure ONLY when somebody dug deep - Associating with a...

real time? r u sure they say "Disclaimer: Fusion Media would like to remind you that the data contained in this website is not necessarily real-time nor accurate. All CFDs (stocks, indexes, futures), cryptocurrencies, and Forex prices are not provided by exchanges but rather by market makers...

oh 50K that must be one of the biggest "partner" of Advantage :sneaky: any way jokes aside ...whatever they may have I guess you get my point about "Association with Advantage" one more "Loaded question" by silly people like me :cool:

Hi Destrieo I am assuming you are asking Orianna of Et2.. if so... I doubt they will disclose that kind of INFORMATION.. they can't even disclose what makes up their main revenue? what is A) tests fees collection and B) true profits from trader's trading... any way since they are a private...

Regarding the corporate structure It is only after somebody (DevBru) asked you had to disclose! and the point was "Do same people own the test fee taking entity and the "Prop funding" entity and has nothing to do with previous owner .. that is the past . I guess Devbru must also be madly on a...

So Bone to put the matter to the rest (if we can) 1) Such SPOT / futures trade profits seems to be doable on unregulated exchanges according to people who claim it.. And why this diff is pronounced on these exchanges ? is it natural or due to the issue of "Exchange Risk" as mentioned by Sig? 2)...

Bone - Can this be called a legit arb? or just a SPOT future carry trade - Somebody further in thread said that there is no cost of carry on the SPOT side? How though? the FiAT currency one needs to use to get BTC SPOT position means that capital is not earning interest so that is a cost ! -...

Sure you can trust it is your own money and sure that arb ( carry trade really) exists as you have shown however it is equally irritating that this thing is promoted as if "look here is a golden opportunity" without digging deep in to the risk side at the same time

MF global... that was the FCM fraud not exchange fraud or exchange going out of business There is a diff. However it is true that unlike SIPC Futures broker clients don't get that much protection. Only in UK the FCA covers everybody

Sig you have defined this thing in a very good fashion (IMHO) .. LOL CME it gets best of the both worlds..some clever person at CME must have thought how can we avoid the stigma of these thinly regulated exchanges on one hand and on the other get a piece of action! I hope they do same with FX...

Yes I agree with you and Sig and although what misterkel has sown might be doable how do we know following - The exchange is acting purely as an exchange and does not have a Prop / market maker arm that gets some sort of preferential treatment like what happened with FXCM USA and they were...

Indeed there is risk .. the example here on one of the exchanges talks about one leg on Deribit and one leg on Coinbase.. Not to mention no cross margin, risk of the exchange being less regulated as compared to major true exchanges . issues with Bitcoin assets disappearing from exchanges etc..

You can't buy BTC on CME, only futures. Yes true

Does anybody has screen shots fo actual fills for both legs? or it is just a theory! so if what you say is true then the carry type trade like this is via those 4 "exchanges" with their own spot BTC and BTC futures! and these exchanges do give margin offset? .. h...m I still think there is risk...

You can do both on one exchange. ? CME? One leg is BTC so has to be on CME

on quiet days, it ranges from 6 to -8. so far, the extreme was 10 to -30 I am assuming your referring to the spread value If so then is it at all possible that this spread can trade back to -0.6 from current of around -3.2? and if I do average down so the average is around -2.0 ( knowing I am...

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