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I would agree with most of what cornhole said so I won't go over that again. I said I did not want to be a broker, have been looking an entirely switching fields, and don't consider myself a failed trader. I am not looking to subsidize my trading I am looking to put to use other skills I have...

True but I think the easier and I think bigger money is in trading big bull or bear markets where there are a lot of participants and hot money rather then just professional traders duking it out. So maybe I explained it wrong but I was not talking about avoiding playing the short side. There...

Thanks I will take a look at them.

I am 30 so still young enough to do a lot of things that I want to. I am ignoring the money part for now but certainly also looking for something with upside potential. It occurred to me that I might be second best at trading as there are a lot of skills or qualities that I have that go by...

I will probably be taking a cut back pay wise at first but I expected that. As long is there is a trade off for potential and a learning experience I am fine with that. There is always a way in. I have already had a lot of interested firms just based on resumes and cover letters sent to the...

rufus_4000 thank you very much for your reply. That is very insightful.

I have seen the results of this from traders who still are hoping to refigure out the market. Basically they were making money during bull markets -whether in stocks, fixed income, the euro, ect. Then for the last 2 years they have not made a dime and continue to bleed off what they previously...

My example above was to show that it does not take much to equal the performance of a fund manager and that a person trading their own money has to perform a lot better then the average money manager if they want to make any real money unless they are working with a large amount. My trading...

Oh and once again I am not totally giving up trading. Out here I still have plenty of time to trade eurex, currencies, and stocks in the morning if I really wanted to and conditions were favorable as I have experience with them all. I just don't want to be that my sole focus anymore as there...

I think you missed some of what I was getting at. I have not really enjoyed trading for over the last year. I think I have a lot of skills and talents that are valuable but have no value in trading. There are other things I would enjoy doing that I think I can make a lot more money with then...

Interesting perspective on the different levels of managment. Now that is some advice that one might not think of if you have not had to jump through those hoops before. Thanks. Most of my dealings have been with the correct people like CIO's or heads of the departments. My difficulty so far...

They would probably like it however I have zero interest in that right now. That is a lot more sales oriented and I am thinking what I would want to do career wise and where I want to be 10 years from now and that is not it. I am looking more into a foot in the door in a different direction...

It looks like the thread is already starting to stray off topic. At first I am looking to work for someone so the discussion about if I should take my money and invest in commercial real estate is not relevant for this topic. I was looking for suggestions on how to better package a trading...

Thank you for your post. I appreciate your thoughts. As far as the analyst jobs they are more of a foot in door for a new career for me although probably can be somewhat boring. I am looking at them as a short term sacrifice to gain new skills and knowledge in another field. Most of the...

I have been seriously looking at moving on from full time trading into other fields of interest. I have traded fulltime now for several years, first trading stocks and then trading at a prop futures firm. I am not enjoying trading very much anymore especially at a full time level and have...

Just for the record I have not seen Charlie trade, don't know if it works or is teachable, or if anyone using it has been successful with it. However of course I would like to see the results of his trading if he does go through with his postings of trading results. It would be interesting to...

I am sure everyone noticed that you decided to once again turn the topic back to him rather than to reply to the original post directed at you. I guess that would mean you don't have much of an answer when you hold the mirror up to your own market ideas and past advertising efforts and are...

Well you can look at it both ways. You have made your share of what many feel are outrageous claims too on the existence of successfully trading trends. If you insist that Charlie must have accountability why is it any different for you? I remember a time of you trying to market other...

I don't think this competition will ever happen but I bet there are a lot of other traders out there that would love to see the results of your trading. I think it would certainly shut up a lot of people (or prove them right) once and for all to see real results especially for this extended...

I don't know if this was a serious post or not but if I had just stepped into this thread and this was the first post I read I would think you might be a little off your rocker. What you are suggesting for verification of someones trading results and the results of someone trading the market...