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Many thanks for your response. My intention has been to invite you to expand on the "evidences" for why you have religious faith. However, I feel unless you can reply directly to the points I'm raising, there is a danger this turns into nothing but reiteration, which is not going to take our...

First of all, thanks for the civil response. It's especially refreshing to be able to have an exchange with you without the usual insults that seem to have invariably accompanied conversations with others on this subject. I've read through your log and after doing so have to say dude, if you...

Yes I get all that. It's called blind unthinking faith. At least as far as my posts to you are concerned, I think it fair to say responding in the form of a discussion to your over the top evangelical proselytizing posts, is not trolling. I think it bothers many religious people to have...

In the real world and not that imaginary one, it's actually the other way round. But whatevs, so long as the music's good, the words needn't matter.

Gravity did. Dolly has Gravity + Jesus . Because there is gravity the universe can and will create itself from nothing. :)

if the world is an illusion, then any transcendence or meditation or purification of mind or any "hidden world" along with everything you think, must also be an illusion. Illusions within an illusion is just more illusion. Some philosophies just don't think things through.

If that is your understanding then I must disabuse you of it. I don't presuppose God is capable of anything, including forgiving for whatever reason even the one as bizarre as you suggest. God is in fact and in all terms imaginary. Always was, still is and actually has to be. Just like with...

Except that.... :p

“We may be surprised at the people we find in heaven. God has a soft spot for sinners. His standards are quite low.” Bishop Desmond Tutu

Can't have a thread like this without Norman Greenbaum's utterly superb (imo) combination of gospel and hard rock as good as the day it was released 50 years ago. Stunning instrumentals at least I think so. Hope you enjoy it too.

What is astonishing is the way a very poorly thought out irrational Bible tale like that one can convince anyone it makes any sense. You supposedly have two people in a garden where an imaginary God, having given them no knowledge, expects them to have knowledge to know what is right and wrong...

That's the kind of thing they say in North Korea where blind obedience is also required. Evil there has it's origins in rebellion against their Glorious Leader too. Evil is actually defined as morally objectionable behavior. That which causes harm, destruction or misfortune. It is being...

Luke, Timothy, Corinthians and Revelation for Christian supremacy What could possibly go wrong with a fkd up idea like that

"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistake" ―Gene Roddenberry

God so loved his 'children' he called them PIGS ?!o_O "You gotta have swine to show you where the truffles are." Edward Albee

God is supposed to have created evil when (according to Augustine at least), there was no need. God ensured humanity essentially wouldn't have free will. To paraphrase Augustine on the subject... It is mistaken to think there can be no good without evil. It is the lack of good which creates...

Bible be like... first God creates man and woman with original sin, denying them free will to have no sin. Then God drowned almost everyone for sinning, then later he impregnated a woman with himself so that he could be born as Jesus to kill himself by sacrificing himself to himself to save...

Personally I'd go for Kara Zor-El cousin of Superman and member of the Justice League, along with Susan Richards from the Fantastic Four (Invisible Woman)

When it comes to 'The Hard Questions', God's best defense is that he doesn't exist.