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    could/would this ever happen-SERIOUS

    Why would the holder of your mortgage agree to that? LOL
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    How Locals Make Money in Options

    In reality the way mm’s work has changed dramatically. Standing around trying to leg into a jelly roll or a box or working conversions and reversals ended more then a decade ago. Virtually every equity options market maker these days is simply a box monkey who manages order flow as part of a...
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    After/before hours bid &ask.

    Notice how he asked about AAPL
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    Is there a forum on this board where real discussions take place?

    Come on its really about enytertainment on any of these free boards. Notes more people own Ferrari's on the internet then the total ever produced raised to a factor of 3. Internet muscles are just something to laugh at, like the PPT stories.
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    Looks like PPT is jamming the futures

    I totally agree with Frank, some of the most violent rallies occure in bear markets, but when the music stops you better get out of your longs quickly.
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    Looks like PPT is jamming the futures

    Whats changed? Nothing other then we were very oversold, if you believe we're not going to go back down after a couple day rally you're mistaken IMO. PPT ROTFLMAO
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    I never saw volatility like this

    There is news out there. Not to mention the very well known 1270-75 level in the SnP cash
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    how exactly do the index arb'ers do their thing???

    You could use any number of products in your basket for the SPX. Obviously the SPY is a great hedge but how much edge do you really think will be in very simple arbs like that?
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    how exactly do the index arb'ers do their thing???

    The theoretical bid and offer of the index is no big deal these days you can configure any number of systems to show you that. The spread for all 500 stocks is a JOKE. NO one trades the 500 stock basket, even with today’s tighter spreads. In the late 1990's and early 00's I worked for a...
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    "Rick Santelli Takes Down Jim Cramer"

    Funny stuff, someone had to much time on their hands. You can cut and edit anything to make your point, its just entertainment
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    how exactly do the index arb'ers do their thing???

    Tao, I dont doubt you I have just not seen an EFP for indiviudal baskets before. Thanks for the info. *********************************** No one trades the full basket of 500 stocks to do the arb. The slippage alone would make it impossible. I didnt mean to imply its a perfect arb or...
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    how exactly do the index arb'ers do their thing???

    No one trades all 500 stocks to do the arb. It’s too expensive and the slippage is ridiculous. What they do is create their own basket of stocks to replicate the index to a correlation they’re comfortable with. You cant send basket order with 500 stocks either. I have never heard of an...
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    Why are C calls so cheap?

    Everything is below what you believe theoretical value is, not what the market has as theoretical value.
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    I wonder what manipulative surprise is next...

    Your "sources" LOL They just canned the uptick rule and now you think they will get rid of shorting? These forums are great for entertainment.
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    made 50k+ today

    I dont think anyone said its not possible the point is why bother posting it? Why not say you made a gajillion ? Who cares when you're on an anonymous board
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    made 50k+ today

    Why do people like the OP here bother with these claims? why not say you made 500k or 5 million who cares since you cant prove it?
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    After/before hours bid &ask.

    There is no after hours or pre market in options
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    Why are C calls so cheap?

    Since C is listed on 6 exchanges and has many mm's at all 6 places making prices I am inclined to go with their prices over your theoretical value calculation.
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    Flame on!

    Those kinds of people dont move the markets
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