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Start watching INDEXES ONLY , SP, NQ and DOW at the same time. Individual stocks are just too confusing for a beginner. Study trendlines, probably best tool there is. Other than that do what axeman said. And remember, it is about the freedom, not about the money. Walter

prophetfinance.com lots of indicators and only 40.00 a month. You can try it for free if you register ( delayed ). Walter

Thanks Nana Trader Walter

You are just playing with the words. I have no way of verifying if these members made it or not and that is what I meant. It looks like that you are just jealous that someone is doing well. Walter

One member of my group emailed me and stated that he made 16 points on first two trades today. Other claims 12points. I am not going to investigate if he really made it or not. It is not my claim. I do not know if you are aware of the fact that i post trading times one day ahead and if needed...

This is how this kind of service should be. You should be able to make service fee before you start paying so you are ahead moneywise. If you do not make money that month next month is free. Would you have a link or contact for this guy ? Thanks Walter

And you are still waiting.. no diguise and still free. Just for invited people though so I do not have to deal with creatures like you. Walter

If you are an active trader in ES or Stock indexes and do not mind to help out with development of a trading method ( s ) you can join my group tradingtimes-subscribe@yahoogroups.com It is free and I post trades for a next day. Some members made 10 + point per contract today. Walter

Agree completely, I think there is not even one "signal service" with real money trading record. If they do not have real money trading record, they should offer their service for free till subscriber made 200% of the service cost. That would be fair , IMO. Walter

It looks like a first lower low ( higher high ) and divergence could be useful filters for entries via your method. Thanks, Walter

What are your expectations ? How many signals would you like to get per week, how many points in ES would you be happy with? And finally how much would you be willing to pay for a service which gives you a profit of $500 per week ? Walter

Thanks for a chart. Where do you place buy(sell) orders ? I am thinking, high(low)of the penetration bar ? Thanks again, Walter

Just for an example: BUY pivot formed at 14:50, ten bars later SELL pivot was formed at 15:40, buy one point above SELL pivot high with stop at Sell pivot low. Pullback trade basically. Providing , that trend is up . Walter

I would add another entry rule to your method. When the pivot is formed as you have described it for a BUY, wait for an opposite side of BB pivot and then buy one point above that pivot high. Look at your screen shot for an example. Walter

Based on your answer , I think that you are just spamming for them. Walter

Would you describe that convergence - divergence method more closely ? Walter

There is nothing like throaty deep rumble of 350 coming out of a 86 Jag VDP ....

I think market is there but there is a lot of competition and you should somehow separate yourself from average peddler of a rehashed materials . How to do it ? You have to show that you can profitably trade . There is virtually no one who sells a "knowledge " who has trading track record...

I just want to post real statistics of my trading times. For some reason you felt is ok to distort and deliberately lie about hypothetical results my method produced . In above mention period of time my method had 12 winners and no losing trade . Walter