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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    OK, if it's up to me to define the instant that adaptation becomes this thing that I call "evolution," then: 1. "evolution" is: the change in the allele of an organism's DNA. 2. "species" is: a class of biological organisms that can interbreed to produce a fertile offspring. 3...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Your proclaiming fiction does not make it so, except within the confines of your own imagination. Evolution of the species set apart from mere adaptation requires you to define the instant when adaptation becomes evolution. Otherwise, the scientist will simply state that there is no...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Unless you (or someone on your side of the issue) precisely state a hypothesis that expresses the amount of observed adaptive change that is necessary and sufficient so as to declare such change "speciation," your comments above are interesting, but they are not supported by anything other than...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    ** Should be "accept". Whoops!
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    In my view, the question of precisely how much mutational change under environmental stress that one will except as scientific evidence of evolution is the threshold issue. Most current design/theistic models of the development of life insist that something which the proponents refer to as...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Your statement here comes with no support other than your belief, which makes it little better than the statement from the person you discredit. Did you examine his findings or experiments, or merely conclude that the one statement takes the entire research project out of the realm of science...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    All science is speculative to the extent that, for example, if we measure the time that light takes to go from point A to B at one moment, then we will reasonably infer that it will take the same amount of time when the experiment is conducted again. So, if we proceed from your view that...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Richard Lenski, Ph.D, conducts biological evolution experiments on bacteria. Those bacteria obtain new traits that are the product of genetic mutation. The bacteria have grown twice as big as they were originally, and they now can survive on almost no glucose, whereas originally, the same...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Are a dog and a rat members of the same "species?" This is a serious question and it is extremely important to my understanding of your position of micro vs. macro evolution.
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    You edited your post, so I'll respond again. There is no design theory of which I am aware that does not appeal to supernatural forces/magic to obtain a result that could not otherwise occur. So, if you have a specific one in mind, that does not require magic, then please identify it for us...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    How do we know what "design theory" requires unless you explain what it is? You have stated that you don't "spout the party line," which suggests that you aren't advocating the Discovery Institute's version of ID. So, if not, then what exactly do you want taught? Are you simply content with...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Nowhere in any post that I have read, have you EVER put forth any precise concept of ID. You just say that design is self evident and that evolution is unfalsifiable. So, while you may say that your concept doesn't require belief in mystical powers, no one has a clue as to whether or not this...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Nowhere in any post that I have read, have you EVER put forth any precise concept of ID. You just say that design is self evident and that evolution is unfalsifiable. So, while you may say that your concept doesn't require belief in mystical powers, no one has a clue as to whether or not this...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Actually, I wasn't referring to you personally. In fact, I wasn't even thinking about you within the scope of the essay. It was simply a rhetorical phrase intended to hopefully get people to think about how viewing intelligent design as realistic, is equivalent to wanting to maintain a belief in...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Quote from jem: What level of confidence do you have to say that human beings exist because of random chance. Would you say greater than 50 percent. Greater than 90% From the viewpoint of the scientist, whose measuring devices can only investigate natural causes, confidence in human...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    I haven't misrepresented anything. You are just dancing and dodging and refusing to answer the stated question. If you decide to answer the question in some precise way that expresses what you would propose to teach biology students in public school as an alternative to evolution, I'll come...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    I could match you insult for insult, but it's a profound waste of energy. I'll simply restate the question for the 5th time in this thread: What precisely do you propose to teach public school biology students as an alternative to the theory of evolution? So far, your comments in this...
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Not odd at all considering the source of the comment. As for your argument not being in danger, you're right about that -- it's in no danger because it's already dead on arrival.
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    Oh, I just realized that you provided this little veiled ad hominem nugget at the end of your last diatribe. This sort of gamesmanship may help you salve your bruised ego, but it won't do much to save your argument.
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    Intelligent Design struck down in Federal Court

    You can postulate all you want about whether the chicken or egg was first, but after the chicken and egg exist, you need to explain how they were designed under the natural rules by which the universe operates, or else you are appealing to the powers of the supernatural to support your...
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