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I like it, I do it that way, :-). One has to consider that there is computer on the other side. The only way that works is to be random and expect unexpected, :-).

btw. I didn't mean that, that could have been costly as you see now. Long at 5320, 5330.

sure, market is changing. you mentioned US indices, I thought that DJ will break 11100

My guess: it is forced and we go up, :-)? Or S&P will break trendline as well ? I would stay flat when directional.

Yes, I know, I'm stupid, I made mistake in backtesting. If I just did what I did over past 1/2y I would be few k up rather than few k down, :-). Nevermind, I'm still in the game and I adjusted to new environment so I'm looking forward to new account highs.

bought 5396, 5380, 5359 - taking small profits on upwaves, it is working at the moment still got 5000 puts I should be short like hell but I'm long like hell.

I got rid of flat 6500 calls and bought 5000 puts. (In the morning obviously.) Getting back to even ...

yeah, it was short selling rule I kept buying from 5520 - 5460 and selling other indices. When I closed I had really nice profit on both sides. In my view DAX is heavily oversold and sep expiry is approaching. I´m not saying that we cannot go down but dax may overperform other indices.

Well, I could not believe it myself, I lost couple of time few k on similar moves. It is completely rigged game and we can do pretty much nothing about it at the moment. There should be circuit breakers, deals should be cancelled when it breaks levels. Responsible traders should be fined and...

I had in mind Dow or Ftse. It improved a bit, but I'm aware it is still vulnerable. FESX is a composition of few EU indices but mostly Germany so one could observe very similar behavior. Also banks didn't help FESX, it was even lower than DAX, april 2009, close to few years low. If I was...

I've got a feeling that dax is very vulnerable on the downside compared to other indices. Any idea why?

I meant 5600 ... 6600 would be too early

I closed all options when we went below 6600, small negative delta. At the moment I accumulated dax over past few days so it is annoying to see that dax is -1.6% down and other indices are already in positive teritory.

50% fib 5600 reversal is coming Account is a bit depleted due to stupidity but what to do, paid for lesson.

well, I sold calls as vix was rising. It looks like they may expire worthless after US downgrade. I have a feeling that some people knew about the downgrade before announcement.

now, I'm going to sit here and make sure all my calls that I shorted expire worthless

dax still does not point to recovery

eur retail sales +0.9% (0.5% expected) germany factory orders 1.8% (-0.4% expected) rates are kept flat I believe dax is heavily oversold over here compared to any other index except s&p and estoxx50.

I do not know, do I consider it as a crash?! I have to say that no, may 06 was much better, we went down and then up and all was fine. I'm flat for today but it was a battle.

:-), I'm among them too, crap. I was buyer of covered calls and luckily I bought some 6100 and 6200 puts just in case and it looks it was worth it. Overall result. account 3% down from the last high but fighting futher, :-). I think this is the time of the year when money are distributed...