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wow, nothing quite as pitiful as watching two geeks argue.

just isn't a whole lot of visible correlation between VIX lows and market tops, long term. http://www.cboe.com/micro/vix/pricecharts.aspx

well, since you asked...my experience is different. depends on your approach and, once again, whether or not you get the fill.

it's a proven strategy. but it's all rhetoric unless you get the fill.

if he has to move 100 million in bonds, what's he going to tell the media? that he's bullish on rates?

it is a bit scary to think of who might replace greenspan. he is the master. fortunately, there are tons of cash around looking for something to do.

i didn't know he was the talking head du jeur for the fomc meeting. i was talking about how he periodically makes utterances from on high that make one wonder if he isn't talking up his position.

yeah, i think their office is a motorhome.

oh, idunno, every freakin bond speculator in the world?

no, no, no. the NY Times is pushing this. He's pissed of Soros or something like that.

trust me on that one.

yeah, but it's not...

i would think the mandelbrodt book would be a goody, since he just about invented the idea.

con: I don't like the name. I think it's dumb.

"if you want a friend, get a dog."

I should have said "voice." I meant that tel and o/o are much more meaningful ways of trading than electronic order matching.

unless they happen to be the most volatile...

xactly. there is a lot to be said for the level of communication that open outcry gives. is it a good trade, to sacrifice all that for a cheaper, electronic fill. for some...as you say. but not for the majors.

natgas is fine but delivery days are awful.

yeah, well, we all know open outcry is dead...too bad, though, cause it still works when the squirrels eat your cables or prepubescent truants hack into your system.