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Today these puts are actually up pretty decently given the QQQ carnage. First day I can look at them and say "yea these did some real good offsetting my other losses today."

No Tim, I bought the put. Not sure where the sell idea got out there. I own the put and the put right. T

Are you sure about that lindq? Stops have their own sets of problems, i.e. huge potential whipsaw. Is there any definitive studies that show stops are better than deep in the money puts over the long run? I.E. they protect you as good or better and your average annual return in the market is...

What on Earth are you talking about? Are you saying I, as the purchaser of the put, cannot exercise the put when I want? What?

I think it pops before that, honestly...

Why on earth would a new QE cut the market in half? I literally cannot think of a single reason. You might say inflation, but inflation makes stuff go up in price. Its the raise in interest rates associated with it that kills markets. But you just said QE so that is not going to happen in...

So, your first sentence right there. "They are stopping their treasury purchases". Do you think that will hold up? The U.S. government is issuing bonds to finance their out of control spending, to the tune of 30% or so new dollars every year (likely to get bigger), can you imagine what will...

They are starting to address that... they are starting to address that... they are starting to address that.... how? By trying to pass a NEW stimulus package to the tune of TWO TRILLION?!?! And that is ON TOP of them already printing money at like an unbelievable 25 to 30 % annual rate is the...

The government not spending money like drunken sailors?

Oh no, I am very aware of the actual policy Nine. I get QE ending. I get tapering. I get hiking interest rates. Yada yada yada. I am asking you this: If an economy grows at [3%] annually, but its government prints money at a [30%] rate annually, how on earth can there NOT be inflation in...

Oh they were many months away, at least 7 or 8 months I would say. Some longer for sure, like a year out. Thanks!

Calm down Nine_Ender, I worry you are going to have a heart attack with that blood pressure spiking like that LOL. I bought the TQQQs when the market was going up. But I wanted to protect myself for just something like this fall that is happening, because as we all know it can happen any time...

I was just doing it to hedge my TQQQs. You are calling that a mistake, but SHOULD work out nicely, if the market continues to go down they SHOULD (I think) go up considerably, offsetting my losses on the TQQQs. In theory anyways haha.

But QQQ options are American style options, correct? I.E. I can exercise any time, not just on expiration. So I think the options being far out (at least several months) would be a huge plus, no?

Some I think July this year, others December this year. Most December I think.

I bought some puts on the QQQ basically at the market top when QQQ was around 400. The strikes run from 300 to 310. I bought them cheap because they were so out-of-the-money - VIX was low and no one was thinking about this sort of downturn. So the market has taken a HUGE hit. QQQ down to...

Nine Ender, what makes you say inflation isn't going to be a long term issue? How could it NOT be a long term issue when the politicians are showing no sign of printing money at anything less than ~30% annual clips for the never ending future (in fact want to accelerate it)? The fed could stop...

This forum is smelling blood. Everyone post your call on the 2022 lows right here. Post it on either the Dow Jones Industrials, SP 500, or the Naz. Whoever is closest to their pick at the end of the year Ken takes out for dinner with his huge short winnings. GO! I got 12,939 on the Naz.