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Hi, this is directed mainly to datek direct traders. As many of you know, I trade almost only NYSE. I usually trade 2-5k shares at a time. Cyber is killing me with amro fees. I am looking at datek again. I have an account with 1500 in it that I still have just b/c I never closed it out. I am...

never taken the course, but tradingmarkets is amazing in general, and definately worth the yearly fee. I would assume that the course is probably worth it as well. Look for a cheaper copy that is used though.

thanx

rtharp, is that true? I trade a lot of very illiquid stocks, and even executing 2k at market will give me a half dozen different prints sometimes. If it turns out to be billable, It will cost me way more than cyber.

If you want to trade these, just use island. There is very nice liquidity. Almost always there is 10k a nickle from the inside island. As for trading them. I will NEVER trade tracking stocks. The moves are too small, and I just have never made any money. If you were to trade them, I think that...

Hi, I'm still filling out my echotrade application, and I came accross the billable vs. nonbillable specialist orders. What does this mean. Are non- billable orders just market orders, or orders on the inside market? What are then billable ones? If I place an order away from the market and don't...

We finally have our chat room set up. It is mainly for great new pattern plays in real time, but we will have other plays with people posting ideas all day. I am under the nick hkuppy. http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/elitetradinginaction

All out now. Good for a 1.25 pop. I'd like to thank BEST for the upgrade. I owe you man!

re: ELY. For those of you who were critical on this trade, I just let go 7k at just over .7. 12k more of these babies, I want about 1.5 profit on the rest. I made 1.3 avg on the first unload.

I'm sure we could do a stock and take apart what happened, and what the specialist was thinking the whole time. Tell me which one, and I'll do it.

I almost always use market orders. The only time I use limit orders is when I'm trying to catch a large block. I got 2k at 14 flat (low of day) by using at 14.01 limit order. That way he has to fill me. When something is making a move, you have to use market orders. Cause you want in fast...

El cazador, that climb in the last hour was the specialist pushing this monster up. He's very long like me. (3 times he showed 100k to buy and was hit while trying to gun it. That move up was made possible b/c that seller is all done. 11 mil shares is a ton on this one.)I like to be on the same...

For the record im still long 19k of ely. Gonna be a tense weekend.

Mea culpa Ely. I think this is bottom here around .2. I took 15k more at .3. If not, im blowing it all out for a monster loss.

IM the ely mutual fund here, like 15k, no idea really. I might just take this monster loss.

Just watch mo and dis. They are 2 of the easiest to read. Just watch them. I just started trading mo again yesterday. I had 2 good scalps. Im like 90% against him for the last 200 or so scalps. He's really easy to read for quarters. Just learn how he trades it.

I am currently in that room, my sn is hkuppy

Well, I lost 400 in Lh short today. Basically, I have yet to bank on one of these overextended ones. Basically, there is always some sucker willing to pay up. I think that you must wait for the selling to start. Im gonna edit this in about an hour to add my picks for tomorrow. Man, it's been...

I just keep scanning. IM sure i miss most. IM out of all but 1400 fwrd, I took 4500 in the end, and made .7 on em. Still have 4500 ely. This one sux. I have no other positions. WDC is probably ok for a quarter. Im not really interested. The upside just isn't large enough.

why are you stuck there?