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why go to all that trouble? no need. just allocate some of the Iraq billions to riot gear and rubber bullets, make sure the media ignores it, and nobody will even notice. http://www.aflcio.org/issuespolitics/ns12042003.cfm...

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If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world. --Ari Fleischer Press Secretary Press Briefing 12/2/2002 We know for a fact that there are weapons there. --Ari Fleischer Press Secretary Press Briefing 1/9/2003...

http://www.pink-floyd.org/barrett/

also an illustration of the differences between a textbook "conservative" and the pseudo-leftist neocons -- Buchanan has been very critical of the administration, particularly on Iraq, immigration, and trade.

note the author of the article.

here's a good overview from tomshardware that may help: http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/index.html

:confused: sure -- "he" can cut fed. income taxes to zero, and the US can just fund soc. sec., the $500B imperial conquests of the 3rd world, defense budget, "homeland security," and the $400B drug benefits with Mexican slave labor and greenspan's magic T-bill photocopier.... this...

besides the 'two wrongs' argument, a few differences might be: - the hacker doesn't wield police power, and can't confiscate your property or incarcerate you if you do something he doesn't like - the hacker can be prosecuted and punished for using the financial information illegally

nothing from the bush-lust crowd on this? it's a tough one, sure, but just letting it go without a try? :(

definitely - a really horrifying event. and makes you think twice about the value of building permits and codes, etc. as well as the skill of US engineers and construction techniques. as an aside, the death toll there is on the same order of magnitude as the civillian death toll from the US...

How Do I Liberate Thee? Let Me Count the Ways by Harry Browne December 15, 2003 Sunday's capture of Saddam Hussein made it a great day — a great day for empty rhetoric and meaningless posturing by politicians and journalists. Somehow it was assumed by politicians and the press...

meanwhile, amidst the distractions of bearded ex-tyrants and fake turkeys....

Doom extravaganza: http://www.gamespy.com/articles/december03/doom/ in unrelated game news, heard a rumor GTA 5 is set in Vegas - that would provide plenty of material.... :D

the pigs have always been pigs, maybe with different names: pharohs, emperors, pontiffs, lords, kings, czars, whigs, democrats, republicans, etc., etc. there is no fact more proven than "power corrupts," and its corollary "the people allow it." why should history reverse course today...

a market genius -- he's on to something with this... :p

I get what you're saying on profiting from a criminal act - but if the fed/state govts. openly condone it, and a large portion of industry profits from it, at some point doesn't it become exploitative, to the extent the system is knowingly accepting deposit from people that cannot collect...

on one hand, its bad policy to support the retirement of admitted lawbreakers, as it not only seems unfair but gives a govt. stamp of approval on illegal immigration. but on the other hand, the govt. is already doing just that - they are fully aware of the amount of illegal immigration, but...

"liberation" is subjective...