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yeah i do it all the time. we get shares all the time at our office. it's nothin special.

depends how you qualify order flow.... order flow can also be considered support and resistance. i think the last major 'longer than a day trade' order flow trade i saw was SLM when they priced that massive offering. i forget then price of the offering but there was a MASSIVE bid at that...

basically just big bigs or offers moving prices around. if you can determine that it is just one buyer driving the price of a stock up then you get short after he is done buying.

it's certainly not abnormal for the amex. i think the biggest joke in recent history on the amex was PLX. you also see the amex freakin break all the time too. i mean yesterday day they just broke down and they couldn't figure out if they received the messaging on orders that were sent...

post trade entries.

how did you arrive at this number? explain your exact reasoning.

lol that's how i started out too. i remember back when i would put together a few good days in a row and start to get cocky then... WHAM!!!

kitty i tried to start a thread to see what trader's biggest losses were but no one really wanted to respond....kudos to those who did. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=114990&perpage=6&pagenumber=1

let's get back to the point....post some entry prices, times, and p&l data.

i thought some was fluff at the end but some was real buying. it was probably 50/50 or something like that. it was really panicked buying so it did have the feel of short covering.

lol i love how they are trying to blame 5 bil in losses on ONE trader! lol wtf were they doing to control their risk so ONE trader couldn't light 5 billion on fire?!?! they just need to admit they blew it and move on.

lol so why are you surprised by the amex?

you really think they were more "free" before the depression? you might want to rethink that. there isn't as much manipulation as you think. a lot of it gets busted too..whether u want to believe it or not. i can list things if you want.

so was the MASSIVE move up today manipulation too?

so did you actually short it or just paper trade it like your "all in" csun call?

stock...if you think that is crazy then you should watch some of the craziness that go on in thinly traded nasdaq stocks. i'm going to say the stocks i watch now for this kind of craziness but it is on the level of when GPRE ipo'ed. there are other recent examples but GPRE is the one i can...

just my opinion but you may not be picking the correct trades. you may be going after stuff too early and at points where risk is too high and reward is not high enough. sorry if that is vague but i can't really explain it any better without specific examples from you. i know i certainly have...

haha....none of the selling has to do with a slowing economy or massive losses in the financial industry? naaaaaaaaaaaah couldn't have anything to do with that stuff...it can only be manipulation. lol

lol your sources? dumb people never cease to amaze me. will your sources outlaw the markets going down? will they outlaw stupid investments too? lol

great call...you are a genius.