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This is a very commonly known market principle, brother Momento. Most people are either big losers or big winners. Few people are "in between". Read also my post on page 1 on this thread regarding that issue. Since there are an equal amount of votes on the "lowest" end of the scale, one...

What a shame. You were just flaming the "mental ceilings" thread and now you come here, to destroy yet another thread originally intended to be constructive. I know traders who make 4.5 pts or more already, which is why I included those point ratings in my poll. I think the distribution curve...

AMEN.

That's 'cause they stop counting once they turn 30... :p

Good point. I think particularly latter sentence is the real issue. The parent. Well, there's always the simulator... ~Scientist

Quite amazing indeed... The current results reflect pretty much what I expected as reality... :) While the "average" of the consistently profitable ES traders is, as expected within the 1-2 pts range, with the peak of the curve on ~1.5 pts, the clear majority of the lot is either between...

Yeah - That's another awesome line to tell the guy at customs - With a fake visa / passport, that is ... :p ~The Scientist P.S: Sorry I don't mean to be disrespectful or anything. But anybody trying to sell 'trading systems' on ET is just going to encounter trouble. It's just the way it...

Now THIS poll's starting to look a little more realistic! :eek: Most ppl are on the below 0 / BE level! Wow I can just say... ~The Scientist

My words man. Can you believe this guy? I think "a bit of self-aggrandizement" is a mild understatement. But then we won't bitch about fellow traders, will we? :p http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=302432&highlight=niederhoffer#post302432 ~The Scientist

Sniff, sniff.... I can smell ... sniff sniff ... wait isn't it ... sniff ... SPAM !!! :eek:

It sounds tempting indeed, but I think I'll have to decline for now, for obvious reasons. However, I will reconsider this once this series of systems enters "obsolescence" mode. The HIAP project has been worked on for over 3 years now, and I can't really afford to let information on it let...

Dear Brother AAA, As much as value you for all your great contributions to this board over time, as well as being one of the most credible ET members, I must strongly disagree with your notion. Because this guy is the opposite of what I just described you as. Straw man? That's not funny...

Looks like the first vote's got 4.5+ already. Nice start :) Since I started this poll, I'll better cast my vote later on... When nobody can have a clue what I voted... :D Compliments ~The Scientist

Hi There Dear Fellow Trading Brethren, I thought since this subject doesn't seem to want to rest, I will give it another go posting a poll on this, hoping that this time, the poll is a little more accurate and that as many people as possible give an honest answer as to what their long-term...

Now here is the same system's equity curve over the same timeframe WITH the advanced money management models, all parameters tweaked, but not optimized in a way that would inhibit future performance... Notice how smooth the equity curve is now. Plus, the gains are increased by factor 6.5...

This is how the system looks without the advanced money management models... A rather "normal" system, though still outperforming most systems out there... ~The Scientist

Here is the intraday view of that system for Friday (the last trading day). As you can see, it performed well even under the extreme fire of going sideways and in seeming unpredictable ranges. ~Scientist

OK Folks, Since I don't want to be a spoilsport, and give DT-waw some samples on the way, I'll give you a brief peek into one of my trading systems. This is one of the systems I'm currently using in order to build my "elite" hedge fund. I generally run 10 different systems at all times...

LOL - You bet! Yes. But this would require that DT-waw evolves over time, too. And that is yet another problem. Twice? :p - Can't somebody hand this guy a dummy so he doesn't get too noisy playing with his moving averages? Nice! :) ~The Scientist

Latter sentence all speaks for itself, and the quality of this guy's contributions, doesn't it? :p "This system is optimized... Not much room for improvement." LOL. The funniest thing I've heard for a while...! This is a proverbial oxymoron. Have you read what it says in Market Wizards...