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Thanks. The number lines are calculated based on what sort of day it was (ACD values) +4/-4 +2/-2 or even a 0 day, cumulative 30 day 12 or whatever trader wants Trading levels depends on what sort of trader you are, I am just trying to figure out how to calculate number line ( think I...

I am ok with figuring the OR now, everyone has had some good insight. We could all end up with slight different number lines though ? Now with respect to the 30 day cumulative ACD vs. 12 day or even shorter, do you have any experience or preferences ? Thanks

Thank you. What drew my attention to this method is the statistical aspect of the OR. Now since the OR were older when he ran the numbers, what is the OR today , then further for each commodity. Doesnt look like the MBF team still does the OR stuff

Thanks. Any one commodity you like ? I dont like equity indexes all that much ? Maybe individual equity is interesting, but like the leverage of Fut's.

excellent point Mav. Thanks thoughts on Gold..... with repspect to same... Opening Range time . etc . ?

Thanks I was thinking of looking at volume clusters for some clues. So CL can begin at 900 am EST , seems late in the morning

Open out cry is long gone floor is not as relevant as it was

Thnx looking at this last night I agree with a smaller OR, but I think I am unsure of the time frame begin times Ng I think 830 maybe? CL I haven't any idea it's so global orientated I do like to use the ATR as A' and C values because it is accurate reflection of more recent...

Anyone around ? Trying to figure out what to use for opening range for CL NG and ZS ? Read early in thread Mav felt that 45 minutes that fisher still publishes off his web site isnt best ? Talking maybe a 5 minute open ? How about the time frame 8:30-8:35 EST ?

Mav, do you ever look at or should I say use pivot ranges at all ?

Thanks Wondering if these guys returns are 5 % year or 50 ? Sounds like just exotic spreads ..... intra or inter commodity, in this case index's ...

Out of curiousity- what does the risk reward look like on these, I.E lose 1 to make 2 or lose 1 o make 10 .. 20 , can you control your risk absolute ? Thnx

excellent. Sounds interesting. I dont understand it all, but some I do. This is a strategy for large insitutional trading with decent size on. Let me ask you this. I have a means of futures trading. Specifically long/short directional swing trading that has decent risk reward however has all...

Ok, how does some where elese become protection if and when any correlation between he two cease to exist ? Other words protection doent become protection or its not enough OR worse yet it also goes against you > Thanks

I would not know ?? Direction of the vix isnt correlated with market direction but it is a guess on "something " ?

agree, unless you have some edge in the underlyng, like a person at your desk makes the market in futures and gives you at the bid and takes you at the offer :)

but the second year you will be shown the door if you are a pro and if you are a home gamer you will prob back off size or just give up ? Plus the tax laws can change overnight? sle- do you trade teenies or more about option "structure" ? Your not a underlying directional trader in other...

Why would you ever need a chart? Especially last 30 minutes is meaningless how much money have you made trading?

Same here, how to proceed is question?

So tru, but they the ones hiding behind some theories of trading will never admit that, they "sell" or "bill" themselves as some sort of guru that is salable to a fund not "vol." trading ... its all a scam there is a time for delta neutral and time for direction, there is no static stategy.