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-handling of Katrina -outing a CIA officer -veto of stem cell research Besides Katrina which was a natural disaster and mostly the states responsbility those issues in no way qualify a president for being listed among the worst.

Civil Liberties- Was the torture THAT widespread throughout the military or was it only from screwed up individual people? Is waterboarding torture? Was the surveillance a natural and acceptable reaction from 9/11? Foreign Relations- Was the Iraq war the biggest mistake ever or not? Is the...

In CNN and FOX polls people said they heard nothing new and actually did not believe most of the things Obama said.

Liberals say he is the worst president ever. Can you back it up with three things?

Gringinho I am sorry but you need a lesson in economic Geography. The population of individual countries and the world as a whole is entirely dependant on what type of economy the country or world is in. There are around 6 stages of economies such as agricultural, industrial and technological...

You inability for any seriousness shows your inability to judge serious issues with any degree of accuracy.

The economy is debatable because most moderates believe both sides are to blame for this mess. If Bush is the worst president ever as some claim he is than what three major things did Bush screw up in his 8 years of presidency?

Oktiri your the reason why i think there should be a politics forum and a polishit forum.

Anyone who has studied the issue themselves know the amount of scientists for and against global warming is about 50/50. It is quite the incentive to be for global warming as that is where all the publicity is hint hint hint :p

The national average of the polls combined is Obama 49.9 to McCain 43.7. Thanks for the poll in the biggest favor of Obama, real informative Oktiri. Shows how moderate you are.

Exactly. I think the biggest reason why liberals think we need all these government programs is because people are uneducated. These programs have been going on for decades and there is no evidence of any real progress. The lack of vision for the future is so apparent when politicians...

I disagree Brandonof because his true beliefs will most likely override his superficial hope for another term in four years.

I think this should be agreed upon. Education should be the biggest amount of government spending because when people fall in line with ideologies they truly believe in a logic that is a delusion both left and right.

Any moderates out there willing to defend Obama? (Everytime i ask for liberals to defend Obama i get Bush jargon and racist accusations.)

Thanks for explaining the philosophy behind logic. Unfortunately i wasn't asking for that. I believe both of us are logical. It is not smart to jump off a cliff just the same as it is not smart to hurt the country. Neo-cons want sophisticated and strict forms of identification and they...

Mike your argument saying higher educated people are liberals is way off. Is it true that those who are less educated also make less money? If that is true than you must also agree that those who make less money are more than often liberal. The only way you can deny that is if you live in a cave.

I go to real clear politics and take out the two or three most extreme polls. Take out the Obama up 3% and the Obama up 14% and I would say you have a pretty good average.

Gringinho do you believe that some far left liberals go against logic in order to disagree with neocons or in order to consolidate against them?

As for the police state. Everyone wants their society to be safer but i agree that there is a point where things become so policed that personal liberaties and freedom are hindered. The problem is that it almost seems that liberals are so entirely against the beliefs of neocons that they...

Do you think in any way neocons came about through illegal immigration. Fiscally I am against illegal immigration because i think they will hurt our country in the long run. I heavily doubt i should be called a neocon because i want people to actually have a legit form of identification...