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Good Morning Aisone, Yes, this happens to me at times as well. I can have the best plan in the world pre-defined, until Drawdown comes in real time. I have no answer, but to keep on thinking and fighting and planning and clicking and clicking and starring and thinking.

Good Morning wxytrader, I agree with you sir .

Hello schizo, Thanks for explaining. I perfectly understand.

Hello schizo, Can you please re-explain or simplify? I am do not understand. I thought the AI can go back in time and look for winning algos?

Hello schizo, My goodness you are correct. You are soo right. I thought the same thing. Coding is easy. Coding without an ALREADY profitable strategy is very hard.

Hello globalarbtrader, Now this you and I can agree with!!!!! It is not easy. When I first start building algos, nothing worked. Even things I thought would work, failed. It is very hard to build algos that work from my limited experience.

Hello globalarbtrader, For this algo. I optimized from 2006 to end of 2018. Then I tested out of sample from 2019 to end of November 2022. I was happy. Withdrew $15K from savings. Deposit in broker. By march 2023, I was down about -$8K. Rest of the year went to about -$15K total. I checked...

Hello p0box4, Yes, I thought it would be that simple. 1. Think of trading idea. 2. Program it 3. Optimize 50% in sample 50% out of sample 4. Does it equity curve look good. Does Drawdown looks good. Net profit looks good. 5. Yes it look good. 6. Deposit money in broker and make money and hope...

Hello Frederick Foresight, I am not sure what happen either. It had good size of sample trades. I did not overfit. I think @hilmy83 said it right. guess the ES market changed or something, but it made me lose -$15,000 in cash in 2023. DAMN, I thought it work too. That is why I give props to...

LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH that is FUNNYYYYYYYYYYY Good laugh. LOL, you right!! Not sure what happen in 2019 to 2022 in the market, but I can sure use that again.

Hello Frederick Foresight and @globalarbtrader, @wxytrader, @p0box4 and the rest. Why did my algo I built in 2022 lose me -$15,000 cash in 2023? I only optimize about 60% of the data set from 2006 to 2019, the rest was out of sample. Please tell me what happen. Thank you...

Hello globalarbtrader, I understand what you mean. Thank you for explaining. Why optimize at all if its such a risk of curve fitting? Just do not optimize any of the data series or 50% of the data series. Here is algo back test I built in 2022. I run in 2023, and loss -$15,000 cash money in...

Hello ironchef Yes, I experience losses and drawdown while clicking. Nothing you can do about drawdown, but keep on clicking and get out of it. There is no other choice buddy. Whatever, the other choice is , I damn sure do not know about it. So I just stare at the chart and click click click...

Good Morning wxytrader, lol, wish something like that exist. You have to program that yourself. use ninjatrader 8 strategy wizard, that is an easy algo to build. The problem is it may not work in back test. That is the biggest challenge right there from MY experience.

Hello Frederick Foresight, Good luck to you as well. Enjoy your day.

Hello p0box4, I did not know we were arguing. lol. I do not argue with men! And as I have said, allow me to be stupid and pointless and Trader. Last I recall this is free forum, with an Ignore button on it. Use it per your discretionary. I do not call how you trade stupid or even argue or...

Good Morning Frederick Foresight, Damn good question you ask. Best to me is +$20K a year 1 ES contract in back test. It is tuff to get that in 2006 to 2019. In my experience.

Good Morning p0box4, Well p0box4, how else you going to the the equity curve in back test to look like this if you do not use 100% optimization on the data series in NinjaTrader 8 from 2006 until today. If you do not use optimization button, the equity curve have bad years and you will lose...

Good Morning MrMuppet, Well my friend. I am doing what I have to do to make money and try to make money. You all can laugh at me and crack jokes and all that other stuff, but none of you are putting money in my pocket from trading. So yes, I will take that title as a Gambling Guessing ES...

Good Morning globalarbtrader, Thanks for the response. I have no idea @globalarbtrader. You are the master at algo building. I simply do not know how to build a successful algo that makes money every year and back test. So, I will just stick to what I know. From my experience with algo...