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question for those whom look at the future mkts do the BOTS "spoof" with or without "human intervention and is the "spoofing" done by more than one whale or IB prop desk or MM and why do they do it ? prices do go where they gotta go regardless of the size shown

finally seeing some profit taking this am with london opening choppy though :p

gentleman ... gentlemen can we get back onto the topic ? all I know is I see the same names again and again in the wires saying "blah blah" or "yada yada" methinks if they could trade well they would be retired or that they sometimes are "used to confuse" by their employer...

I know .... It is not me but ... of all the people quoted on the wires or even in their own websites whom do you trust the most for some knowledge of the markets you speculate in. ( even if they are talking their book or fading their own talk ) and do you trust more those whom...

I can see the headlines already < S. S .S. > STOP SUGAR SPECULATION ! :p

unless the rules are changed somehow I predict the small spec. will go the way of this fellow www.tapirback.com/tapirgal/gifts/friends/extinct-animals/dodo-bird-stuffed-animal-f1701.jpg :(

www.bloomberg.com ( excerpted below ) -Aug. 6 (Bloomberg) - - U.S. proposals to place curbs on commodities trading will drive business overseas, particularly to Asia, said Jim Rogers- -It is remarkable because America is shooting itself in the foot again,” he said in an...

thanks DARTH VADER for moving this to chitty chat ps ... do you "paper trade" or do you work for GS or some other sinister WHALE ? :D

and another thing I live in america ... so if I choose to place a bid and offer STOP trying to "#$%^&*( front run my order ) thanks alot mr BOT :p

its not just "goldy' shame that people running OPM are too greedy to notice the harm they cause those trying to make a living ... :(

that was a funny one moving this to chit chat :D

one more thing .. the so called "experts" quoted on the wires get a "life" and stop using this to try to predict price behaviour www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WV0dBXcneI :cool:

is there any way to limit the barriers and otc derivatives and abusive practices taking place heck and lets end the "flashing size nonsense too" little BOTS :p

of course not ... however something has to be done about the VOLS and spikes and "killer poops" green shoots being shot down and also sprouting up all the time in various markets in various time frames too much money chasing performance too little to late ??? :eek:

gold is dead ... even if it goes higher it is only following other macro poop out the door www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsLqKAvKiQM :p

its the same old "poop" everyday no matter what color it is where it ends up is in the pockets of the dark side www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsLqKAvKiQM :p

I mean every day ... its "spoof and spike" or is it "spike and spoof "? or maybe its just plain "poop" :p www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsLqKAvKiQM

I think the so called "big money" prop desk stuff is nothing more than a few BOTS with or without A.I. and human guidance trying to muscle everyone else out of the proverbial "sandbox" so they can dig for any "buried treasure" left behind ... and furthermore ... I think these folks are...

just do not get caught in one of these moves the wrong way http://media.entertainment.sky.com/image/unscaled/2008/11/20/Indiana-Jones-The-Raiders-Of-The-Lost-Ark-7.jpg :p

by the way ... this nonsense is worse in commodities as there is much less liquidity out there inspite of recent inflows into the asset class :(