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here in the U.S. I cannot find a broker who offers that one-symbol pairs trade. Any spread can be legged into but I'm not interested in that with crudes... either side can slam 30 - 50 cents away from favor as one side is filled but before the other side completes. They are way too...

I have checked with three big brokers and two chart services (Ninja and TradeStation) where I cant find anyone that offers this spread as a lone symbol to trade or even plot. May I ask who you trade thru and chart with to see this Brent/WTI spread as a paired symbol?

I would opine it's untradable in reality, real-money real-time to any individual trader visiting this site. Account size and minimum stop-loss per single contract trade size would prohibit just about every CL trader here. In years past I wrote a lot of TS systems that were net profitable...

can you show the latest six month's trade result data? also, what are the overall results if single largest winner ($51k) is backed out of the data? assuming next time it was missed filling by one or one hundred ticks, how would the overall results appear then?

http://traderkingdom.com/trading-tools-archived-webinars/3763-consistent-trading-recorded-webinar-reading-price-action-to-determine-trading-sequences there is no real systematic "edge" to purely trading the open range as a pure strategy itself: if there was even the slightest, every algo out...

Sorry about that... forgot to resize smaller before attaching. But then again, how badly could this whole thread get ruined regardless? Trading is hard, it has always been hard and it will always be hard. Except for very brief blips of time when volatility is at extreme highs and massive...

well, one of us is wasting time during live markets hours making umpteen posts about how trading is impossible... and one of us is busy trading :cool:

everything that has ever worked before, still works today and will always work forever. Which would be measuring = trading price patterns aka "price action" with various strategic tactics & tools. That part is the constant: eternal variable is each trader's level of self-control when it...

I should clarify: trading for $$ is alive and well. It's the sport of at-home gambling that has been rather dead for awhile. A majority of men who aspire to be traders really want the fantasy lifestyle they imagine... trade-trade-trade = win-win-win excitement, thrill, satisfaction, prestige...

The game of trading is dead. I believe 90% of the men who ever dabbled with trading at all were more interested in the excitement, challenge and gaming aspect than they ever were serious about money. It is mostly that crew who spend all their hobby time in message boards, attend expos, etc...

they don't work. what you see in hindsight looking backwards on a chart is NOT what you see unfolding in real-time when it matters. moving-average crossovers are a siren song... don't work. lag trend session moves and chop to pieces during sideways periods of price consolidation learning...

First price-action mark hit... long signal from 97.15 area (give or take several cents) worked to 97.65+ thru the measured swing. Two different 50+ cent swing extensions to the long side this morning.. of which any trader only needs one per day, more days than not to succeed wildly over time...

should happen for ya... price action itself says it wants to do just that :)

I started serious day-trading in 1999 and can tell you firsthand how eminis trading, ES specifically in 2005 - 2006 really was. It sucked. Horrible day-trade conditions, VIX levels at 11 and 10, intraday ranges of 5 - 6pts sideways chop, sometimes entire week ranges never broke 10pts from low...

Standout points for everyone to note... #1: One out of three days you lost money. And that's ok #2: when market action sucks, it sucks. And you don't make money. Witness September and to a degree March and Fed. #3: when market action is favorable, you make money. Witness most of the...

agreed. I never understood the market/symbol addicts such as many ES traders feel it is unmanly and beneath them to trade something else... as if ES is the only viable market on earth. At this stage of my career, I'm content to trade CL and NQ during optimal sessions. If one or both are...

ask any of the former big-guns here from this site how 2012 graded out for them. you know all the big alias names, you've been here long enough for that. report back to us how many had personal record highs or even nearly high personal profits this year ** market conditions always have...

I agree 100% The years prior to 1998 - 2000 when the online trading / electonic era truly began is ancient history. Of course there were years of no-range sessions back then... but index price levels were likewise a fraction of today. Also, trader participation was fractional to the modern...

they have been... that process is exactly what we're discussing here. where does everyone think the volume and volatility has gone? from the "short-term" traders whose needs are no longer met and are already gone. the traders who make it thru these periods are tomorrow's grizzled vets. the...

static historical charts only show range and swings... they do not show dynamic movement of price real-time charts show much more staccato, surge - coil - plunge - coil - coil - coil - spike behavior due to low volume and algos domination. thick markets are more deliberate and methodical...