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That is very good advice. When I have a better grasp on trading over time, I hope I can return the favor to you.

I DO understand JP AND GS are not selling from THIER inventory. They pass along to institutions. These instituitions (which are banks) then see what they can make from the traders. The 44 dollars is what VISA will pocket no matter how the share trades. I am not putting a value on the...

No one knows, but if a persistant trend up is shown I have no problem jumping in at a middle price and going up to higher for a profit. Not everyone buys at the lowest lows to make a profit.

Yes, I see now. So the $44.00 per share had JP and goldmans "commission fee" already priced in. Then the banks will sell to regular joe tomorrow for even higher. So joe regular buying tomorrw will be bying an overvalued stock at (tomorrows price) BUT if VISA grows it could be a good long...

Ok, thank you for the clarification. So to put it in simpler terms, does this mean that not only do JPM and Goldman have bought at 44 per share but now jp and gold habe to sell to institutitons for higher price to make their profit? After that sale, then the instituitons will sell to public...

VISA already sold to the big banks. VISA unloaded their shares at 44 to the big banks Tomorrow the banks will try to see waht they can get when they sell thier shares to the public. Of course it will be more than the 44 they paid..they want to make some cash. How much they get remains to be...

This is the latest news that I could find. Business news March 18, 2008, 6:20PM Visa raises $17.9B in largest US IPO By MICHAEL LIEDTKE AP Business Writer © 2008 The Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO — Visa Inc. raised $17.9 billion late Tuesday to complete...

I would not vote for Obama because of his close ties to this Rev Wright the same way I would not vote for a white man if he had ties to KKK. Its not a black issue, its a racism issue.

What does that mean? Does that make Rev Wright less of a racist because he interacial? He is racist and its obvious.

You are right, white racism and black racism is alive and well. The double standard does operate both ways. To deny this would be ignorant. Wrights tirade does not shock me at all. His emotion filled animated style is nothing new and is purely cultural. I have no shocked feelings from that...

Obama is black and white. Why he chose to attend for 20 years a church that promotes racism is what is being questioned now. Its a simple as that, and people have a right to question that without being labeled a white racist who is trying to stop him from being president. So if Obamas ties to...

I wouldn't say fear, more like wary. Have to say "some" whities are wary of "some" black preachers, not fearful. Can you say you do not see that some black preachers are more focused on firing up their congregation in a cult like fashion with hyptnotizing anti white hate inducing rants? Its...

Could it be as simple as JPM having enough cash on their books in combination with low leverage business structure to take the risk of buying Stearns? They can keep themselves afloat while they dust out Stearns and find the assets. Hmmm?

Yes, watch the price after the debut. Its a huge public offering. Suppose to generate more money than at&t. Of course Goldman S and JP will make a ton of money, thats the idea right? VISA sells to them..they turn around and sell to public for a profit..ok, but the amount of shares being...

Don't forget master card had many lawsuit issues before their IPO, and that IPO was a huge success for the shareholders. No I do not think becasue of master cards sucessful IPO, it means VISA will do the same. I personally do not see those kinds of gains for VISA shareholders..not that...

No doubt these companys were a suckers play for the shareholders, but that does not prove VISA will be. It doesn't prove anything. No doubt VISA's motive is to raise cash that will be needed not only for the pending lawsuits from unjustified foreign transaction fees that are being reimbursed...

Who knows what their tactics will be to get it going? Everyone knows the timing couldn't be worse. But like you said they are not stupid. Only way to tell how it goes is buy after the IPO if a price uptrend can be seen, and go from there. My opinion is potential for long term growth..but the...

I see VISA potential for growth with thier DEBIT card expansion, not the credit card. Yes this IPO is a way to raise some cash for banks that is badly needed, but that is not always a scheme to screw the shareholder. To make (long term) money for themselves they need to keep the...

Bear Stearns (BSC) Derivative Lawsuit Our lawyers and attorneys are currently investigating claims on behalf of current shareholders of Bear Stearns to determine whether a shareholder derivative lawsuit may be warranted. A shareholder derivative suit is a lawsuit instigated by...

Ok, here is the second part of the article..finally Investing Extra Credit for Visa's IPO Stocks Lower amid Recession Fears The Debt-Settlement Trap What Can Go Worse—or Better? Bonds Are Saying Nasty Things About Stocks Story Tools post a comment e-mail this story print...