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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    Just the same as those boys at the white house who were picked to have sex, but they had no say in the matter.
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    Ratboy, my intention was not to paint you as being for pedophilia. I think that maybe males (you are male?) see sex with a young girl as normal in some ways. And I agree that some girls are sexually mature. But that doesn't justify a man picking them who is much older, and she has no say...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    You posted a comment about age of sex at the turn of the century and cps would have a field day with that. So to me that means age is relative to you, and who is to say waht the right age is to have sex. Ok, but when boys from the white house have been brought from cps for sex, you call it...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    Ok, many religions use their god and their gods rules to benefit some kind of want of the leaders. But do all these religions build a town of their own, with their own dairy, own quarry, own farms, churches and temples all self contained, gated, and only a select few ever go out to take care...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    Why do you use the word pedophile in this respect, but when the men of the ranch have sex with young girls it ok ?
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    My problem is not with polygamy or pregnancy. I said it before, the problem is the brainwashing and the use of "its gods word" from the time these people are born to fear them into this lifestyle. Its the same fear that causes a parent of the cult to throw their child out like garbage. Thats...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    I don't understand waht your are asking here. I am not looking to put down anything you said here, I really don't understand
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    Very good point as to how the law only works for the sect when they want the law tp protect their interests
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    CPS possible mistakes placing and locating the children are one thing. If they made mistakes, this does not prove anything toward the alleged abuse at the sect. It doesn't make alleged abuses any less credible. It just diverts attention from the first serious charges to the sect onto other...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    It said of the 53 girls, 31 are pregnant or have been pregnant. Only 2 are pregnant right now. All these girls are between 14 and 17 years old. So this means all of the girls that are not pregnant right now in the group would be 29. So 29 girls are not pregnant right now, but they have all...
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    For my Christians Friends

    Why did the believer of a creator have to ask the creator of the hydrologic cycle to change the very cycle he created? If the creator created the cycle, and the creator is all knowing, then why did one of his believers have to ask the creator to change it in the first place? If the creator...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    I know this is old news, but I thought it worth reading again to remind people of the negligence and abuse that is done in this religion but considered to be what god commanded and not abuse. I am not saying the cps actions are not terrible, they are, but how does this sect have their lawyers...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    What is the latest news on missing children? I thought at first maybe the media reported them missing when they were not missing, but in the process of being located. Thy have over 400 people to account for and no one person off the top of their head can remember who is who or where they are...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    This has been a disaster ratboy I agree. In my opinion they should have kept all the mothers and children together instead of foster care. Its terribly sad that it happened like this. Most likely the majority of the children are healthy and waiting to be with their mothers. I hope this...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    I appreciate your feedback. I don't know what anyones position is until I see their responses. I am just expressing how I feel about some issues on this thread to discuss and get feedback from other points of view. But I wouldn't tell someone if they don't agree with me than they will burn in...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    You make some very good points. I agree with alot of your feelings about foster care and how it could be worse than better situation to put those children in. I agree cps has flaws, and once the children are in the system, the powers of that cps system take away the rights of those mothers. It...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    The crime (from my point of view) is in witholding choices. Choices are denied to these women by the religion. How? From birth they are taught to multiply and be fruitful is what god is asking of them. God also has said a man shall take many wives. God has also said a women is to have one...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    I am going to sleep. So do not take my not responding right away to any new posts of yours ratboy as a sign of defeat. Just time for sleep. None of us know all the findings of the investigation yet. Maybe I will eat my words, maybe you will. But in my heart I do see a big scam with religious...
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    Just who are the bad guys in the polygamy case?

    You say I seem addicted to this thread. I am very much interested in this subject of the thread. Ratboy, you have responded to this thread as much or more than me, Are you addicted to this thread too? Or are you interested in the topic so much that you want to respond as much as you have...
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