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OK.. Leave this to people who trade then.

Whats wrong with a regulation that eliminates illegal activities? What these privilidged HFT's are doing is downright illegal. Solution would help all of retail traders, not just me and "my trading style". A free market is not one that consists of a useless(to the entire market system...

I wrote them friend. Lets do our best to lobby and reason with SEC to balance the playing field.

Sorry . Just google Fast Traders' New Edge and you will be able to read the article.

I think he meant the banks . The only smart money out there was GS.

When there is aboslutely no liquidity , when it can randomly drop 1000 points on no volume? Solution. Slow down the market. 1 second to cancel all bids and offers. Eliminate subpennying all together, or make everyone be able to sub penny. elominate flash orders and ability of the...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703340904575285002267286386.html The scum are being exposed . Essentialy, these brokerages are involved in a scam. They take kickbacks for providing orderflow. Jail time would be nice.

Hey you know what? I thought about it and it would benefit all traders if this happens. Its a win win for everyone. Someone wants to make the market then bid sub penny below the offer. The offer saves a penny (nearly) by hitting this bid. Ok im for it if everyone plays by the same rules...

Let me put it this way. BP can pay all of aig's deby 2x over and still have market cap left . BP is huge. Their size and money power are much larger than this problem.

Lol they are tearing up that lobbied law as we speak. BP had a market cap of 170 billion dollars. How much do you guys think it will cost to "fix" everything at most? Because right now the markets saying it costs around 40 billion dollars.. I dont think thats even close. Probably like...

I did read it. I dont see how small investors are benefiting from darkpools . Maybe you can clarify. If you dont have access to being able to subpenny, you are being hurt by it. No matter who you are, because you are forced into taking away liquidity. Unless you meant they are investing in...

But theres nothing wrong with the smallest increment being pennies. What benefit does subpenny for everyone have over subpenny for no one? Like you said, earlier, last thing we need is more market fragmentation. Maybe you have thought of a reason that I have not. As far as being...

Please clarift how this helps me get filled on my limits .

I disagree with this part of your comment (agree with the rest I did not quote). Any trader that does not have access to putting in subpenny orders is hurt by this . The retail trader does not get a better fill. In actuality the retail trader does not get filled on his liquidity adding...

Allowing everyone to subpenny is not the answer. Getting rid of subpennying IS the answer. I am baffled that some of you say the small retail investor gets better prices because someone subpennies .001 cents. Most investors are FORCED into putting in market orders because they are...

And you failed to address the point that there are participants who get special privileges (flash orders, order flow, front running, sub penny) for doing absolutely nothing, taking almost no risk, and not being required to make markets. Specialists had certain similar privileges but they made...

Are there many people who consistently make money trading the minis?

Thanks all. I think Ill stick with spiders after PCP's post. What I was really worried about is that as an etf, spiders dont have the same movements that eminis would (being and etf, and having dividends). But it seems to even up on the commissions side. Leverage is important but I...

Never traded eminis. Thinking about it. Have traded the spiders successfully.

What a jerk*off comment. What has that got to do with anything? Go die slowly.