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To each his own. From my experience I've discovered that the market has it's own mathematical system. It's actually so simple, it just stares us in the face. But because people don't beleive, they don't look. I don't claim to be smarter than anyone else, I found this mathematical system...

My thanks goes out to you for always being professional and polite even when you disagree with me (which is quite often :) ) You have my respect.

The question is, who did you learn from? Of course nothing works thats out there being taught. OTHERWISE IT WOULDN"T BE TAUGHT. It would be used. I've studied fibonacci for about 3 years. However I didn't read a book, and I certainly didn't learn it the conventional way. The only thing I...

Don, About predictions: you seem to disappear every time you get proven wrong, or someone brings up a valid argument, and you just don't respond, then you pop in again with the same "market neutral, keep your eye on your nose bs". I'm sure your busy, and most of my posts got buried, but...

Runningbear, you either didn't read this, or you didn't understand it. you have a ratio of 2/1 for destructive/constructive posts to this particular thread.

Personally, I would never put real money on either of them, cause they'll probably both come up negative for the day. :D :D :D But at least Tony Oz isn't afraid to use his real name on a msg board. So he wins my hypothetical bet money.

I got my money on Tony Oz.

Darkhorse, he made a billion dollars, but he used 10 billion to make the trade. Thats only a 10% gain. In a currency market where trillions trade every day, thats not as great as it initially seems. Also, the whole thing was engineered by the Fed. Soros was just a puppet. The Fed broke...

Is it possible to predict the markets? Yes. I will prove it. However, I can't do it here as a forum makes for a lousy venue when information needs to be organized. So I won't be posting any more predictions here. I tried to do it with the sleepless nights journal. In fact, each day I...

after 100 pages of provoking dialog, I think I'll revisit my original post to alleviate some of the confusion surrounding this thread. I admit that my calculation was wrong. I've posted numerous times that the September 11 week could have messed my charts up a bit since I was using...

no hard feelings. I didn't mean for that post to imply something negative about your business. It was just an observation. I also know that profitable traders is what you guys want in the long run. I'm a big beleiver in capitalism, so as long as you teach them to make money, you deserve...

dotslash, thats what I was trying to say. :) overtheline, theres 2 types of straddles I know of. One is buying puts and calls. You are betting on volatility. If the market moves big either way, one side of the straddle makes enough to pay for the other side losing, and still make...

In defense of fibonnaci, elliot wave, and gann, I have the following to say. The reason for the apparent flaws in these theories is because the application is incorrect, not because the theory is wrong. I consider the 2 major flaws in application to be the result of improper pointA/pointB...

if you want to cut me down to a size u can handle, please do it on my thread or u can start a new thread if it pleases u. Lets not clutter SE's thread.

Have you ever heard of swing trading? :D Scalping has it's merits, but it's not for everyone. And even scalping is no longer a 'market neutral' game. The spreads are tight, so you still have to be bullish or bearish for those few seconds you are trying to exit your position. Correct...

hmmm, your right. I should edit what I said to be: anything that compares two or more pivot points and how they relate in time/volume/price. edit: I shouldn't have skipped highschool. I must have missed the part about effective writing skillz.

I rely on elliot theory, elliot waves are too complicated for me to understand. As I understand the theory, an uptrend consists of 5 waves up, and 3 waves down on pull backs. A downtrend consists of 5 waves down, and 3 waves up on pull backs. Where do MA's fit in to that?

useful: ALL DRAW TOOLS. elliot, fibonnaci, gann, trendlines, chart patterns. (anything that compares the price/time/volume of 2 or more pivot points) useless: ALL STUDIES or INDICATORS. stochastics, bbs, macd, oscillators, ma's, etc.

Could you please explain how you trade that allows you to be neutral and not care whether the market goes up or down? The only method I know of for doing this is a straddle of some sort. Even then you are either bullish or bearish on volatility.

Does that mean buying calls into a sell off on Monday is the best time to buy, premium wise?