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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    That is a completely biased and false statement. Not only that but it is self-fulfilling. As soon as a "brilliant" scientist claims to be a believer, he automatically becomes someone of "no credible intelligence". Very poor argument, and it discredits you.
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    The use of the word "need" was intentional. The need is real, the debate lies in why they have such a need. Atheists will argue that they are just too ignorant to know better. Theists argue that each person was created with an inborn desire to find their creator.
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    I don't mind stu actually. His arguments are generally well executed and logical. They are biased, but so are mine.
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    I think that the tough thing for atheists to express is the difference between belief in religion and belief in God. If Christianity as we know it today is wrong, does that mean that god doesn't exist? No. It simply means that God as defined in the "Holy Trinity" doctrine does not exist...
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/americans-continue-believe-god.aspx
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    Gallup It's always intriguing to me how much atheists want to believe that they belong to a much larger group in this country.
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    Sure, that's just not where the majority of people in this country are. The most recent surveys indicate that only 3% of Americans claimed to be convinced that God doesn't exist, compared to 73% who were convinced that God does exist. Another 14% strongly believed but had slight doubt. Another...
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    Asset raisers

    They don't get to contact me directly. That is the job of the fundraiser. They must act as a sales rep in any other industry. When I buy a new IPad, I deal with the sales rep. I don't get to call up the Apple CEO. When a prospective or current client has a question, they contact the AP...
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    Religion..

    No... in the story, guilt stopped the stoning. That is, guilt of previous "sin" that was based on prevalent religious belief. He said, "he who is without sin"... He did not say, "he who has never acted against social norms, cast the first stone". It was all based on a religious...
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    I'm not a holy trinity believer, and on that same token, there is nothing in a biology book or chemistry book that proves or even suggests that there is no God. Next
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    non sequitur... you're suggesting that everyone should just bite their tongue and accept it? If you want to argue against my point, provide a legitimate example of a religious organization or agenda that uses taxpayer money but is opposed by the majority of the tax payers.
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    Asset raisers

    +1 It is always expected that you'll need to at least do a meet and greet. But my clients don't get direct contact info for me.
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    Asset raisers

    "Fair" has nothing to do with it. It is all about market value. What is the partner worth? Market value for capital introduction is 20% of incentive fees 0% administrative fees. Market value for hiring a third-party admin is about $500-1,000 per month depending on the size of the...
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    Asset raisers

    Only when needed. If my AP is simply rounding up phone numbers and then making me do all the work, then what am I paying him for?
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    You completely missed my point because of you lack of ability to look at the whole picture. Secularism has already been forced onto religious people. Usually they are just trying to slow it down. They are forced to pay taxes. They don't get to stipulate how that tax money is spent. So...
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    That comes from your perspective as an atheist. You want everyone to believe the same way you do, then they would stop trying to convince you to live the way they live. From their perspective, they want everyone to believe like they do, because then we wouldn't be forcing God out of their...
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    Asset raisers

    For my company it is pretty simple. 1) An AP never has an exclusive relationship with me. They are never prevented from working with another company, and I'm not prohibited from using other APs. 2) They get 20% of proceeds from that client as long as that client remains with my company...
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    It absolutely can be both. Science cannot disprove the possibility of some sort of Creator. Religion will always be able to say that God invented science and utilizes its methods. If there was a Big Bang it was because God used a Big Bang to start the universe. To the contrary, science can...
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    I disagree. If God exists, science would discover him/her/it eventually. My point about independents and liberals was just to say that there is no distinct line. Not to compare either to atheism.
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    How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

    You're correct in that there is no definite line between atheist and agnostic. But you are really just arguing semantics, and your first question is all just perspective too. To atheists, all religion is occult. To Christian, any non-christian faith including atheism is occult. To Muslims...
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