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The rules are simple. I'll play the bucket shop. That means if you make a profit, I've lost, if you lose money, I win. Just enter your trade before the fact, so everyone knows you didn't cheat.

Sounds great.

I'll just be the bucket shop for the purposes of this thread. So, I only win if the other loses.

Just so long as all your trades are before the fact, and would have actually filled. Again, I'm not going through the trouble to verify options trades, so we'll just have to trust you. You take the most advantageous trade you can, I'll be basically a bucket shop. If you win, I lose. If you...

If your trades are really complicated, then maybe this won't work out. It'll be too hard to keep track of.

That's fine. It would be great if he consistently won. That would be awesome. This thread has the potential of becoming very educational without all the BS from fake gurus. I hope he does great.

I haven't done options in a long time, so I'll just trust you guys to update and be fair. Again, if we're talking a big spread, and pretend fills, that's not fair. But like I say, I'll just trust you to give the updates. Thanks for playing.

Oh, right, I forgot about Labor day.

You know what would make this a lot of fun. If we had some gurus who mentor and/ or run a trading room. If they would come on this thread, that would be really awesome. Pretty please. This is a great opportunity to show the a lot of potential customers how good you are.

Actually, if you want to start today, I don't see why not.

Sure, we're starting on Monday. So just post a before the fact trade. Options are bit tricky, just make sure the trade could actually get filled at the price. Sometimes the spread can be pretty big.

Okay, I started it. It's called opposite you.. and anyone can participate. Again, this is just for fun and I hope it stays good natured. Not attempting to call anyone out, just testing the if 99% lose, then why not take the opposite theory. This should be interesting.

A fun, good natured attempt to take opposite trades. Starts Monday. Here's how it works. You post your before the fact trade with a set stop and target. I'll take the exact opposite. It's a fun way to see who will win. The trade obviously has to be set before the fact, this is important...

Allright. Let's do it. Good natured and fun. Just whatever you post, I'll do the exact opposite.

I'd be willing to test this with you if you like. You post a before the fact trade with your explanation, target, and stop. I'll take the exact opposite. Let's do this for a few weeks and see who is winning, and who is losing.

I'm not talking about flipping positions. I'm talking about doing the opposite of what the other 99% who all lose are doing. 99% are trading chart patterns, and using a 3 to 1 target to stop. Why not flip it. Why not trade the anti pattern, and use a 1 to 3 target to stop. I understand that...

I think a lot lose because they learn from the same fake mentors. If most lose, then why not just do the opposite? Like, for example, go long into resistance, short into support, short into 50% fib pull backs, use a stop that is three times larger than target, etc... If they do all the...

It usually turns out to be a firecracker, but if Mueller did have something big and revealed it today, I imagine the markets could turn into a roller coaster.

I would start contacting officials of just about every agency you can think of. Good luck. Better hurry, there may be others also trying to get there money back. Could be a first come first serve thing. In the future, you really need to be a bit smarter.

Agreed. This has been going on for a long time. It's almost painful to watch people like Peter Schiff talk about gold exploding soon. I agree with him, but dang, it's been like over 7 years. Personally, I wouldn't be able to say the words anymore.