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I think the Colts are in that mix too. And how ironic would be it be for Indy to get Luck, ie their next Manning, after 1 bad year. Peyton comes back, and they have time to groom their replacement for him. Business as usual in Indy besides 1 bad year.

Makes the NFL great to watch - most organizations can eventually turn it around... And now in Cleveland we're hoping we found ours in Holmgren & Heckert.

http://www.openecry.com I don't recall hearing many turned away from OEC, could be worth a look. Very nice platform w/ free data to live accounts.

http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html Use that to remove any program, it will find just about any trace of it on your machine and remove it.

You sound like a real fun person to be around.

Another vendor that cannot produce any evidence of actually trading? Shocking.

Or just leave the site entirely. No one is forcing anyone to come to this site.

Careful using reasoning on this thread... Let's see -- I can trade for myself/fund, make some real $ and do it privately ... or I can sell my stuff to retail guys for a few hundred/thousand at a time and deal w/ all the pains associated with that. I think it's pretty clear to see why...

For us visual learners, these really help. It's not a matter of being lazy or not doing the work, but some of us learn much better w/ visuals so thank you.

Ummm... OSU is The Ohio State University. TY. :D

That was my immediate reaction too. EMG's 'awesome' broker he quoted on ET has an even worse site. In the end, good service at fair fees is what it comes down to -- but a professionally designed website does not hurt either. It doesn't cost a lot today to find a freelance designer to put a...

Good idea. Let us know how it goes.

I was referring to selling courses for thousands of dollars a pop, I should have been more clear. I do think there is some great stuff in books and all over the internet if you are willing to work at it.

Your options are to study, study and study some more. I know paying someone to give you a shortcut is very tempting (I did it myself early on) but over time I've learned that you don't sell your system if it works. Plain and simple. If you're good, you keep it to yourself and possibly open a...

No proof that it works? And you are wondering if it will work for you? Just answer this -- why would they sell it if it did work? And why won't they show you ahead of time that it makes money? Here's your options if you had a system that worked: 1) Trade it, make money, start a...

I believe OEC has 10 on all or most products.

Ignoring the questions once again Pat? Aren't you banned from ET? Maybe answer the questions instead of just spamming your site.

Here's Pat/Urma posting the same charts over at TL: http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/beginners-forum/10734-divergence-trading-2.html#post127902 I'm sure just a coincidence that same charts promoting his site are showing up here now under a new user name since his previous one was...

Clearly a shill for the banned UrmaBlume or is the banned UrmaBlume aka Pat Dittmar: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=244536 http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=227062...

You sure are making sure to promote Pat around ET. Is this the same guy that said over and over on TL that his great work would never be for sale? And now it can be bought for $1400/yr? Shill for the banned UrmaBlume in full effect.