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Because I no longer (in fact lots of us don't) have access to any of the hard edges... To be fair... A lot of them aren't even there anymore... Markets adapt and change. Can you name a prop firm with a quant edge that's hiring right now...? EDIT: Just out of curiosity... Either way...

Wouldn't be an edge... Even the pros don't know what an edge is... They think they do but they don't. EXAMPLES OF AN EDGE:... 1. HFT moving your computers closer to the CME/NYSE (whatever market) to get that extra split of a second ability to frontrun everyone's orders. 2...

I challenge you to define edge...! Or to give an example of an edge... you don't have to give up your edge to us... You can use an example of something that no longer works.

Blaming the trader on an almost impossible to do mission unless you take a heavy gamble...? Again... Doesn't make you look to good... AND it doesn't change any of the facts of the model...

You don't have any right to tell anyone to stay off of threads... It also makes you look like you're trying to shut people up.

Lots of ways to look at it volente... Usually it's best to look at the ROA of the "ROI" and your "assets" not the margin requirement. On $50000 it's 7%... On a $1000 one way stop out bet that would be 350%... Eitherway with your example it's still 140% return in 10 days.

I'll assume that those numbers are correct and that they give a good representation of the chances you have to pass Combine... Obviously there's some problems with assuming that... BUT if it is close then that tells us the following... 30/5400 = .005 or .5 % chance of passing Combine...

Actually now that you mention work, I should be getting ready to go to work tonight...! :cool: I'm out... Later...!

You were the kicker on your football team...? Haaaaaa....!!!! Haaaa...! Haaaa....!! Isn't that the loser position...?:D No but seriously don't choke on Monday!

Good way to practice for trading naked...! . . . . . . . . NOT!!! Ain't going to help you in Combine...!

Yup... Unless he's chicken...!? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IpNgah-e6v4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Oh don't worry cupcake... Your Combine is coming up on Monday... I'm going to be on your ass like a pitbull on a french poodle...! ...LOL... Damage control for the industry much...? Try not to choke on Monday...!

Neeeeahhhhh... You're allright Don!:cool:

Had a quantifiable edge... Gone now... Tried to see if I could do it by trading alone.. The answer was failure... This has been educational because it's kicked all the crap out of my head. Out of trading for good... Feeling clearheaded and at peace about it...!:)

Thanks Don...! I can tell you get it! :cool:

What I'm trying to point out is that you're brainwashed by the industry to think that Mav is correct... You guys don't get it, you really don't. You repeat the same stuff ad nauseam that doesn't make sense. If you lose it's because you lack discipline...! On a game that's rigged for...

You can look at it that way... Most people look at it by the $$$ in their account. Nothing arbitrary about that. When you've leveraged that "50K" to 200K you need a smaller market movement to make $3500 but you still have to return 7% of 50K... with a $1000 stop loss that kills you...

Sorry but you've completely lost me... I was pointing out that you have to take risks... Big risks to make it because the solid players couldn't do it... The ROI would be too difficult for their trusted safe methods. Despite that they still blow up... Go figure...! I also don't get...

Gee... I don't know... I have a feeling that the bankers are going to be OK! :D

3500/50000= 7% ROI in 10 days... Surely most sought after fund managers could pass this without gambling... Because most return that in like a year... :D No the goal is to get funded... You guys have more problems than I do if you don't get that. BUT don't worry about me I'm going to be...