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This is the guts of the discussion. Who you are and how you chose to live has a direct bearing upon your state of health and therefore your health cover. It all needs to be dragged out in the open. Smokers know they are at a disadvantage when it comes to where they smoke, what they pay and...

yes and if and when the weight starts to fall off then maybe their premiums will fall.

So if the fat people have freedom of choice as to their size and condition, then they can pay for the consequences themselves by buying their own health insurance.

very very sad indeed

All I know is the fat people are going to inherit the very nation they destroyed. Who needs OBL when fat people are doing the job with their teeth.

275 is entry level. What about those 400 lbers, you would need a fork truck. Sad thing is that we healthy folk are subsidizing the fat clowns big time. Maybe medicare should be funded by the pound.

http://www.newsmax.com/us/obesity_us_billions_study/2009/07/27/240514.html Why isn't the healthcare reform addressing this disaster. At the rate that fat people are spreading the cost will soon be 300B per year. It is a disgrace in a first world nation. sosueme

You were dead right about the possible move up, that is exactly what has happened ... good work You reckon there is no money in trading futs... opts are the way to go huh.

good work. You have narrowed it down to only two outcomes.

are you holding a long position?

WHY

Now you are really on a roll and getting to the heart of the matter. However people will still cling to their dogmatic and overly analytical ways because the pain of looking into themselves is too great to bear. These are the very same people with whom we share our day to day lives. sosueme

You are also on my wavelength. sosueme

I see you are on my wavelength. sosueme

There are two components to trading. 1) what to do when the trade goes in your direction. 2) what to do when the trade goes against you. So why make your life so complicated that you cannot see the woods for the trees? sosueme

Very well put Sir. There can be no self fulfilling prophecies, only buyers and sellers at price levels as you point out. We know that shares and contracts change hands but we do not know the reason why other traders buy or sell and so we must discard everything that is not proven and actual...

Yes I agree, even price alone is way too much for the majority of posters. They have absolutely no concept of what they are trying to do and so of course they do not know what to look at. The AMT CD thread is a classic case of the blind leading the blind and since none of them have a clue...

The problem is that they never get past the concept that "more is better" They go chasing after silly shiny stuff dangled in front of them by failed idiots talking crap and hoping to pass it on either for money or for kudos. sosueme

haha You are one of the people that I am referring to. An habitual paper trader, without a clue of what it takes to trade real money.. sosueme

When I read some of the posts here, I wonder, should most analysis be discarded as it is "too much information" Most of our illustrious little group, despite being pointed in the right direction, continue on a fruitless search in the blind believe that the more complicated they make things...