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thanks Andy...good pt that you may need more than one "hedge"

what do you fear?....

I am a little obsessive (she said sheepishly) when I'm learning something new....there is just soooooo much to know, but I will take a break and watch the superbowl...go hawks, go steelers.. wait a minute...what are YOU doing here:D

Say Andy when you have a chance would you give a little more detail on how you have been setting up your "spec/hedge" specifically...I think you do IC's so do you get one call and one put hedge? when do you buy it...same time as putting on the IC or when there appears to be a move toward your...

of course..thats why it changes...I'm trading my aunts account and I have to keep explaining myself:p ie. that bottom line isn't REALLY as bad as it looks:eek:

and I REALLY need to start getting a life on the weekends:(

I would love for someone to explaine to me what exactly "mark to market" is. I know its been explained to me before but I still don't get it. On my statment I have p/l set to opening p/l and day p/l and when I noticed that the opening p/l would change as the day went by and asked tos "why"...

I've really been struggling with that issue as well...I'd LOVE to short stocks in our IRA which is where most of my trading occurs...what I have been doing is put calendars on stocks I think will be going down. Selling bear call spreads would be another way of essentially shorting stock. Even...

I have to agree...TOS has my loyalty..for life...unless they sell themselves:D getting fills .10 below limit pays for a lot!

your certainly right in the shorter term...I can see in both rmbs and wfmi if I closed today I'd lose money even tho they are strongly down....however if I can roll I'll then be very close to paying for the longs with lots of time to still make money. The problem is that direction needs to stay...

nice summary Mo...printing it out...its a keeper:p

couldn't help it went there....actually kinda cute:p

VP...in revisiting your posts you said the vol crush after earnings negates a multi-month spread....I would say so what? won't vols return to normal in the ensuing months due to other factors? In other words after putting on the calendar...is IV that much of a factor?

I'm not even going there:eek:

geez my vols were REALLY high on my put cal's

great thought VP are the guidelines the same for call cal's as well as put cals?

right...the only problem with the debt spread (for me at least) is you do limit your profit/flexability on the "hedge"...purely personal choice.

geez...even I can see the H&S if today is neg....I think we may be in for a ride....

exactly...you could put the reverse twist on this and say you are "using" the credit spread to place a bet that could pay off better than just the credit spread alone....again haven't tried it out for real...still working on it edit: thx mo for the better explanation!

sure...when I initially looked at doing this..I'm trading 50 contracts now on the credit spread so I would buy 10 contracts on the single...so lets say I decide to sell the Mar 1200 puts today I would buy 10 1245 puts. (if you were selling 10 you would buy 2) what I figured is the spread just...