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man....you are crap at insults come on Optional go back to the funny pictures. Milkcarton imagery is where your talents lie. You make a shitty christian look good

Non-believers cannot show respect, as then they would have to admit that believers could be correct and you... the fraudulent apologist

whatever.......dude I need nothing from you your response speaks volumes

You want proof of me loving my wife ? You need porn that bad :D If belief in god is a sensation as love is then...... I believe I Beeeeelieve. You can't hurry love, you'll just have to wait Love will come someday it's a game of give and take....... between living breathing people...

If anyone is attempting false argument jeez, In the rational reality of existence I wonder how the Egyptians coped when all the time that axiom 5 was problematical. So they shouldn’t build the pyramids and they must therefore understand that they don’t exist Strewth. Give me strength :D

Aphe, I am not a rigid hard core materialist you make an assumption (again !) Look at what you said again please, "However, don't make the false argument that one who practices faith cannot be a good scientist or still faithfully follow scientifically proven protocols. " Where I have I...

Then I say it is unreasonable to do so. You jump from defending connection from God and Faith to just Faith and at the same time try to accuse me again of reading stuff into what you say. Shifting away from the thorny issue which you raised when you connected God to faith and the implied...

If a Faith in a God which will produce a reward - is not a religious term then what the hell is? Faith is Faith but so what. Faith fails as well ,it doesn't mean it can always be relied upon or that it is intended by God . Something which I distintcly get the feeling you are saying. And...

Religiousness is attracted to anything whether they be statements truism or sayings, to which the religion can attempt to attach itself This is such an example. In science, the cause would be tested to be as certain and as verifiably possible under scientific scrutiny that the cause was...

No. Not each will be rewarded accordingly. You cannot state that as a known. There may well just be NO reward at all for all any one knows :) I try hard not to enter debate with precepts but I do hold principles, I try hard to discuss the content and substance. I try not to assume yet always...

Gordon, Like I said before, I think you are as close as you can get :) It is fascinating I agree with you. I do have rules and I do have believes, but I trust you gather that (Rule 352) I do not wish to impose them on anyone as Religions do. (Rule 735/a) I'd rather discuss , debate and...

but better understanding comes from discussion without the definitives you made and you referred to. To openly discuss the problems flaws weakness of a proposition to strengthen it or debunk it. Nothing you have done up to here confirms to me that you are in favor of greater understanding. You...

Thank you

My level of understanding.?? You have a different one or a better one. If you have a different one , fine, what I said about lonely stands. If you think you have a better one then your comments could only be construed as arrogant. You don't know what my rules are, I have never explained...

If you feel alone under those conditions it is just as probable it's because you believe in God

Now don't do that pray thing Option you will waste your time and you will insult my intelligence. and thanks but no thanks for yet another condescension in your "sorry". These aren't "issues" they are points which question things we are led to blindly believe or understand. I now understand...

but you can and do make definitive statements ? or should we just leave it at.... you believe in god (perfectly acceptable) and leave YOUR definitive statements that God does exist out of it too? you couldn't get more condescending if you tried. You should consider that more rational people...

Gordon, Your expressions are surely as close as can be. The rather feeble and childish responses to morality /religion are again expectable and disappointing and bear testament to your succinct if not rather abrupt ability to summarize. Option, "Proof of God is in the experience...

I take it you are jesting. I wouldn't like to have to examine that as a logical response :confused:

goldenarm, No it is not. It is a closed statement. An assertion. Too much is read into stuff people say or put forward by implication. It assumes assumptions which generally may not be assumed :) .Better understanding between people does not come that way I think