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  1. BlueWaterSailor

    Short put is deep ITM. Advice!

    A spread, without anything to qualify it further, refers to a vertical (that's, um, two legs.) But you can keep piling on these red herrings to scare yourself into fits; no one will stop you. For everyone else, though, spreads are much simpler in a number of ways. Since they're risk-defined...
  2. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Thanks - I'm actually enjoying learning just how bad of an idea this is. The basics were pretty obvious, but it just gets worse and worse every time you look. I've done a bit of hedging before - played around with gamma scalping - and learned quite quickly that it's not quite as simple as the...
  3. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    I'd appreciate it if you could expand on that a little. I thought that only exotics were path dependent.
  4. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Who? I was looking at this one (remove spaces to get the URL): https://www. amazon. com/Superior-Persons-Book-Words/dp/0440204070
  5. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Still broken, but I've looked his book up on Amazon. Oooh, it is fun! :)
  6. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Broken icon there, but I assume you mean the one by Peter Bowler. Nope - I got there a bit more indirectly.
  7. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    I thought you knew me better than that, ON. I talk how I talk... although I do pay some attention to the audience, I like precision in communication. No, I'm not showing off - gawd, what a baroque idea that is - but simply using the right word in the right place. Otherwise, I could have just...
  8. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Sir, this is NOT a Wendy's.
  9. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    OK. You don't understand that hedging the underlying essentially removes it from the equation and you're net a short, naked call as a result; that's fine. Good luck in your trading.
  10. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    How will you do that without a magical price predictor? Remember, what you're selling is protection against downside moves, especially sharp ones - which means that's what you're exposed to. The real scenario is you waking up to a $10 drop, not one to your strike (that's not downside - that's...
  11. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    No way to do it without taking on additional risk. In this case - as everyone has been pointing out - the risk of going naked on an adverse move (the underlying is locked against your hedge but still had a fixed cost at assignment time that you will need to give up at a much lower cost if it's...
  12. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Right, so here's the problem: you don't get to have that. If there was an underlying that never moved or only moved up, nobody would pay you for risk on it. You're getting paid for selling insurance against the downside - which means there is a downside. Which YOU get hurt by when it happens...
  13. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    I have. As in any convo, some people - not all - are going to contribute the majority of the value. But you're not even listening to those. Giving you the benefit of the doubt - what little of that is left - you're really, truly failing if you don't think about what people like @destriero and...
  14. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Now you get zero benefit from any rise in the underlying that you're holding, have locked in an automatic $2 additional loss into it, and paid the haircut on all those trades. Go on, tell me more... As to what's better: trades with alpha. And that's something you don't get simply from trading...
  15. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Ever considered that they DO understand and disagree with you for good and sufficient reasons that you have no clue about - and that you'll never have a clue about unless you stop and think about what they're saying? Just a thought.
  16. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    I don't happen to need a gross of random idiots, so - yeah, it is quite nice, thank you. But if I ever decide to trade one (short side ONLY), I'll structure something with positive expectancy.
  17. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    You sell a 5-day 97 put on a $100 stock for $1; the price at the next open is down by $10. You're now out $6.50 and assigned at 97. Calls anywhere at or above your cost are going for pennies, so you're screwed. FYI: when you're long theta, you're short gamma. This is the BIG clue, so pay attention.
  18. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    What a dumbass thing to say. "Just selling time"? As if a sharp price move can't kick your ass? Dude, I get that you're irritated by people not agreeing with you, and that you believe in what you're doing; that's fine, keep your head down and keep ignoring the risks. They'll bite you in the ass...
  19. BlueWaterSailor

    Hedging the wheel

    Since you based it on relationship dynamic terms, I'll give you an example: taking the risk of trusting people in your life to whatever degree your perception says to has a huge positive return - that's what it takes to find love, friendship, and every other sort of good relationship (not doing...
  20. BlueWaterSailor

    Short put is deep ITM. Advice!

    But a short put/covered call going DITM doesn't bother you? Wow. That... takes a complicated set of rationalizations. If you're terrified, don't trade. I'm 1000% serious: if your trading is driven by emotions, then all you're doing is flushing your money down the crapper while entertaining...
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