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the refco accounts that are large enough to matter know better. the little ones are better off gone anyway. never saw refco as a retail shop.

yeah, my hunch is there is at least one more shoe to drop -- this whole thing is really weird. anyway, who's big enough to buy 'em? and who would at 50% of the IPO price? nobody's gonna pay retail for this thing. kinda had a feeling REFCO was getting weird when they started acquiring...

it's one more thing to look at if you trade equities or related products. it's a secular indicator -- big picture stuff. search dgabriel's posts on volume reversal days and chasinfla's short interest stuff from acoupla years ago if you're into that sort of thing.

who gives a rip about your "thoughts?"

she dumped you, eh? America should, too, but she's too good to ungrateful morons to do that. anywho, the cool thing about economics is that The Invisible Hand is ten steps ahead of the static, two-dimensional schemes that self-styled gurus dream up.

a debate involves reasonable discourse about something. a rant is what some apparently deluded wannabes are posting about Greenspan. As if they even had a clue what his job is and/or the tiniest fraction of how to do it, let alone how he has to do it.

:D :p :D :eek:

Greenspan's Fraud? has everyone gone completely off?

yeah. like someone didn't pay him to do it...

mechanical systems are self-defeating in proportion to their complexity.

you can't put a price on your dignity; your time is a close second.

stop trading? he asked a question that probably a lot of floor traders don't know the answer to.

the sec is supposed to regulate things that the unsophisticated trade in.

the more this is discussed, the better the market is able to price the risk involved.

oh yeah. <i>He</i> sure knew how to engineer a soft landing. with a nuclear bomb.

yeah, so would i. however, when you read the posts, you see most of them are socialists who don't even know it.

oy. didn't realize it was Mr. Greenspan's job to tell lenders what sorts of loans to make or borrowers when they're doing something stupid. But, hey, what do I know

Ever heard of "irrational exuberance?" It's similar to what you're demonstrating in your post. At least, the "irrational" part.

looking for historic bond data -- 30 yr. Anyone? thx.

would that it were so.