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    POLL: what's the most useless human emotion?

    To me, it's pride. For all the other emotions listed I think of some positive uses, but with pride, I really can't think of any useful purpose it serves. Jealousy/envy are pretty rotten emotions. I basically see them as being pissed off because you believe you never be as good as someone...
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    What price religion?

    Jem, I find this interesting because the lack of meaning in life is one thing that kept me going on god even though I'd long thrown away most of the other stuff. However, since I've offiially dumped ideas about god, I think I can look at it a little more objectively. What does the...
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    What price religion?

    Shoe, I'm going to have to agree with you here. The idea that Christians are freed from the Law through faith in Jesus is well supported. However, there's the serious point of Matthew 5:17-18 to consider. (Believe it or not I actually really enjoy reading the bible (NT) and I knew this was...
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    What price religion?

    Dude, multidimensionality is just as big a mystery to you as it is to me. And it's not proven or even strongly supported. Although it might well one day be. It is obvious you are just using because you think (incorrectly) it strengthens your own case. Typical theistic tactics. Nothing new...
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    What price religion?

    And round and round we go. Again, it's not that I "hate" God, it's that I don't BELIEVE HE EXISTS. If hating a character in a fiction novel counts, then yeah, I hate him. He truly sucks. If I was God I would be WAY fairer. Man, I could list a THOUSAND things I would do better then the...
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    What price religion?

    I believe that anyone who believes is amazingly ignorant of history. The Jews survived by the skin of their teeth. "One of the most successful nationalities" that does not make. How about responding to the rest of the argument regarding your intervenionist-God logic?
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    What price religion?

    I'll admit that. The laws in the old testament were patently immoral. I don't know of one society today that would support such grossly unjust, immoral, excessive laws. If the old testament laws come from god it is A-grade evidence that God is an immoral tyrant. If God is supposed to be...
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    What price religion?

    Oh bullshit. No way were the Jews "one of the most successful nationalities in history". Ever heard of the Egyptians? The Greeks? The Romans? The Arabs? The Turks? The Russians? The Mongols? The Chinese? The Spanish? The Portuguese? The British? Holy freaking hell by what twisted...
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    What price religion?

    No you can't use the same logic to "ban" ethnic groups and nationalities! One can't help belonging to an ethnic group or a nationality. (Although he could denounce them, and be "just human", I guess.) However, one has a CHOICE to belong to a religion. Breathtakingly stupid logic here Shoe...
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    What price religion?

    Shoe, my problem is that the inventors of Trinity and the other "paradoxes" had no idea about "multidimensionality". It's their methodology for acquiring knowledge I take issue with as much as the "knowledge" itself. I could "decipher" patterns in the clouds to determine it's going to rain...
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    What price religion?

    To me it already is explainable. Christians plainly made it up!
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    What price religion?

    Marketsurfer, just compare the two dude. How many times have you heard people admit they done something bad, like murder or violence, because their religion made them do it, or they done it in the name of their religion? Too numerous to mention, isn't it? How many times have you heard...
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    What price religion?

    Man, I really could have used that "cancelling" power of your skepticism on some of my losing trades last year!
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    What price religion?

    Doubter, God has commanded much worse in the bible! Stu, thanks for bringing up the Trinity. That's another Christian doctrine that I find completely implausible. The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost are all supposed to be the same person, but they're also different...
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    What price religion?

    I suppose the comeback to that is that "Religions don't kill people, People kill people". But of course, some religions DO make it a point to order the killing of people, under special circumstances. (Like Islam). But if we look at it from the point of view that very often what causes...
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    What price religion?

    Jem, I asked a buddy of mine about the genealogies. I had an idea that it couldn't be so simple that the idea of a Mary genealogy derives from that verse in Luke. I mean, that one was just so black&white that it referred to Joseph I couldn't imagine how it could be spun into a Mary genealogy...
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    What price religion?

    I see that reason and rationality enter the picture here. I guess that's why as much as I would love to take a "live and let live", or "disbelieve and let believe", kind of stance, I feel I have to, from time to time (whenever I read the latest survey highlighting the abysmal scientific...
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    What price religion?

    To me, "the occult" is just as crazy as anything the "established" religions do. It's just stigmatized religion, really. And I agree, from my perspective, they are both just big nothings.
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    What price religion?

    See, it's statements like these that, on a rational level, lead me to conclude that to pursue (and to subsequently stick with) Christianity had nothing to do with "truth" whatsoever. For you to have not "been interested" in the Koran, but (presumably) "interested" in the Bible suggests to...
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    What price religion?

    I'll read it. I can't guarantee I won't make any wise cracks should the opportunity present itself (:D) but I will let you finish your piece. And I'll give you my opinion on it, so I guess you should probably only continue if you're okay with this.
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