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So which one is the green shoot that's the question. Is it that the recession is bigger or is it that they are pulling $50bln pounds out of their arse, or both?

One excuse for flashing orders and HFT is that it is good for liquidity. So the only limiting factor to stock liquidity is the speed of light I guess. "Real time quotes" are going to become like 15 minute delayed quotes at some point if everybody peeks at orders. Of course the more people...

Fair enough, but what if the federal reserve was on drugs and hiring hookers, how would you feel? You have to be prepared.

Well, my tin foil hat is keeping me warm these days. I put on another hat for trading. It's got some holes but it's hanging in there.

There was a book out maybe 10-15 years ago with that title "The Fourth Turning" (or something close) that I read. The first 3 turns make sense. I think the fourth turn (at least of your quote) might be off the mark. For example, the Iraq war is not a monumental disruptive event for most...